Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'cache': 0.07; 'app,': 0.09; 'editor.': 0.09; 'ide': 0.09; 'oh,': 0.09; 'positioned': 0.09; 'things,': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'gui': 0.12; 'sections': 0.14; 'windows': 0.15; '110': 0.16; '4),': 0.16; 'between.': 0.16; 'comparison.': 0.16; 'editor,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'mine.': 0.16; 'pinned': 0.16; 'ssh': 0.16; 'way;': 0.16; 'workspace': 0.16; 'workspaces.': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'do,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'do.': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'memory': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'switch': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'resolution': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; '+0100,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'another': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; '(most': 0.33; 'entirely': 0.33; 'screen': 0.34; 'good.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'half': 0.37; 'searching': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'version,': 0.38; 'window': 0.38; 'that,': 0.38; 'bad': 0.39; 'use.': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'identify': 0.61; 'full': 0.61; 'browser': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'more': 0.64; 'different': 0.65; 'relatively': 0.65; 'side': 0.67; 'between': 0.67; "else's": 0.84; 'modern,': 0.84; 'widen': 0.84; 'colleague': 0.91; 'dozen': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92; 'kate': 0.95 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=GEwaB4Jri7LGi43x/LRmO0JVX+5IiaeHzh2B8twjZtI=; b=PbIyMcfWyDRtY/xkzINwjKaSKtspvjmqIaLDG3gJuszkNa6N8kp+7lnnionX7JDzNJ 67VNPwVzOTJiOVR8ZfSeCZbOShXSegIdoWJjhvuv8yqLwaaBBeV/jz9qtNYce2sRzPPj OeuOGxSuGXkb2XJWBAvO5XZf3jVAJaC88h00YqyVg1WUIDnGMlcEuNObSoTrdy71MMUx wGFJ9WPVveO5GIgx5Gqy65MANQI00BcLx7SJBvslY0amMd/ctMCLqCKjvie+5DJJT9Ie LM9Kluf4z+fvjqaW03m7TxehY/cRfeBfuCpJdUZhPxuVyQHFWZqQhjmZ5g/y0I+Rk5Ej r8PA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.56.71 with SMTP id y7mr5062181vep.24.1401350556755; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:02:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5385def6$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 18:02:36 +1000 Subject: Re: IDE for python From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401350565 news.xs4all.nl 2892 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58903 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72225 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Rhodri James wrote: > On Wed, 28 May 2014 14:04:55 +0100, Steven D'Aprano > wrote: > >> My IDE is to have three GUI windows open: >> >> * A web browser for searching the Internet. Any browser will do, but I >> prefer Firefox. >> >> * A tabbed editor. I prefer kate (KDE 3 version, not KDE 4), but geany is >> also good. At a pinch gedit will do. kwrite is another good editor, but >> not tabbed, and it lacks some of the features of kate. >> >> * An xterm or console app, again with tabs. I like KDE 3's konsole, but >> any modern, configurable, tabbed console will do. > > > Interesting. I'm entirely the other way; while I'm perfectly happy to use a > tabbed browser, I find tabbed editors and tabbed consoles awful to use. I > want to have three different sections of code side by side on the screen for > comparison. I want to have half a dozen consoles all running different > things, all positioned so I can take in the state of those things at a > glance. I do not want to be wasting time flicking between this and that, > and relying on my relatively poor memory to cache all that information :-) > > Then again, I'm not as bad as one former colleague of mine. He reckons that > the main advantage of higher resolution screens is that he can tile more > 80x40 console windows on them. I'm half way in between. Tabbed web browser, tabbed editor, but all my terminals/consoles are untabbed. I don't use screen/tmux to have multiple consoles in one window, I use them to share a console between two systems (eg ssh to someone else's computer and let him/her watch what I'm doing). When I switch from terminal to terminal, I use their position and size to identify them (most of my terminal windows are 80x24; some are full screen; and if I'm working with avconv, I widen the window to about 110 or 120). Oh, and I use a tabbed MUD client, which (along with my editor) is pinned to all Xfce workspaces. But the web browser is Workspace 3 only. Not sure why I do that. ChrisA