Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Pyhon 2.x or 3.x, which is faster? Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 14:43:32 +1100 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <56df6761$0$1588$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 6CMwxQSmxqJvHiIkDknl9Aizg0WrJyWODZfbSCtpA/vA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'differently': 0.07; 'plenty': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'non-ascii': 0.09; 'subject:which': 0.09; 'systems.': 0.11; 'english.': 0.13; 'properly': 0.15; 'thu,': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; 'characters:': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'non- english': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'rudely': 0.16; 'student,': 0.16; 'unicode.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'basically': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; '>>>': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; 'fix': 0.21; 'am,': 0.23; 'examples': 0.24; 'words': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'chris': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'said,': 0.27; 'subset': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; "can't": 0.32; 'problem': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'text.': 0.35; 'unicode': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'received:209.85': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:209.85.213': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.38; 'or,': 0.38; 'enough': 0.39; 'ever': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; "you'll": 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'you.': 0.64; 'mar': 0.65; 'worth': 0.67; '*get': 0.84; 'chrisa': 0.84; 'offended': 0.84; 'snapped': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-transfer-encoding; bh=c8TZI6ixnP0TcrVLup9wc/f0SatWroinuit0MjWCxjs=; b=fenzS/gSI2Zvn4XOOKiGdBbxS9Q1GnWdgh7FOnTcLFovd6vEgRQFys+S1SrbzrG55q qWEUSnBYTrShj4QQem2QUoL3tJxIS56GI5l1fqDxjDyL17kFSM3VDalUwD6OK5vyJgCI vi1hmvpFxydstTDch3R8kLWRs6/n91fCR6MyU9SFgrdPcozNNh2FPF4RDjgMzs3bllDE BDFl1j76Wo+kmpSoDwgPgfCkXdepuiBzBTy4mQu+rJ87kDGb9nJYrXKlbFWnpNPtxXZT XIewLMpPVNkzy+jgoBkLVGr+6ScWZjGKCOAlKyjfdEiLkB8u0Xo3DsL0w2EAl/Lv5ovx Rk6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=c8TZI6ixnP0TcrVLup9wc/f0SatWroinuit0MjWCxjs=; b=BNASQegobr3ATmiy6QgjbukM7WIxwIYR/0ErFa1Mhn6GHYfuqUOJIFAqTKbSbHeYwC V/HGTYqaDTx+1+AWqCCd5p0hstwf8J14uZa9DTrrXVa7Vk8RAiTvSkBLwWs9Vv+U7o1V 0xB3hLzFyst+oI5WTjhvtEBGud6dymQPdUim9bM+Hj/Ecs8BE7YN/ej7X1ITPxcaL8ZE 5tlzCspxXEcO7/5yznD9iD8z8tMlznfLrFS+p8ECFEQyBVv7nt+4a/s3UfV3eJ1xFVQE L64CHTJSrm2U/1+oTfTaMKVCA3/tnZaDMHHvSTn0/iJB+Rcm21iz13L0qhr6+quDNHBY UaJw== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJIK7ahL6Sw+7O4kD5CIHAAGLXgtOXmDezoPP/4Iy7+pepFRJSrFG5Mnm9BZR+rLIqUz+C1lU24cNlQbag== X-Received: by 10.50.137.35 with SMTP id qf3mr1402234igb.92.1457581412321; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 19:43:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:104470 On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:38 PM, Jon Ribbens wrote: > On 2016-03-10, Chris Angelico wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Jon Ribbens >> wrote: >>> On 2016-03-09, Chris Angelico wrote: >>>> Then *get interested*. Unicode is the only way that you'll ever not be >>>> parochially bound to a subset of English - or, worse, bound to an >>>> arbitrary eight-bit codepage that you don't even control the choice >>>> of, such that your program behaves differently on different systems. >>>> FIX YOUR LANGUAGE and support non-English text. >>> >>> You can't even support English text properly without Unicode. >>> Plenty of English words use non-ASCII characters: >>> caf=C3=A9, cr=C3=AApe, fa=C3=A7ade, na=C3=AFve, d=C3=A6mon, etc. >> >> Like I said, a subset of English. > > I profusely apologise for so rudely agreeing with you. I snapped off a very quick response as I was about to meet with a student, but let me assure you that I was not offended in any way by your post. You basically gave examples of exactly the problem that I alluded to with the words "a subset of", and it's an important enough consideration that it's well worth having the examples there. ChrisA