Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'attribute': 0.07; 'failing': 0.07; 'get(self,': 0.09; 'hiding': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'def': 0.12; '24,': 0.16; 'letting': 0.16; 'received:74.208.4.195': 0.16; 'storing': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:exception': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'subject:skip:m 10': 0.16; 'threads,': 0.16; 'wing': 0.16; 'subject:python': 0.16; 'exception': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'module': 0.19; '>>>': 0.22; 'separate': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'error': 0.23; 'module,': 0.24; 'sorry,': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'somewhere': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'raise': 0.29; 'thus': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:mailman': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'context.': 0.31; 'crash': 0.31; 'ray': 0.31; 'routine': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'guess': 0.33; 'actual': 0.34; 'subject:the': 0.34; "i'd": 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'interact': 0.36; 'library.': 0.36; 'scheduled': 0.36; 'url:listinfo': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'clear': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'most': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; 'you.': 0.62; 'more': 0.64; 'received:74.208': 0.68; 'further,': 0.74; 'william': 0.81; 'subject:source': 0.84; '2013,': 0.91 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:26:36 -0400 From: Dave Angel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Finding the source of an exception in a python multiprocessing program References: <5BC4D9D9-D757-40F3-81CA-CF4FA5C73A96@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <5BC4D9D9-D757-40F3-81CA-CF4FA5C73A96@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:cJMsG10+ZfNdbq8JfuP7WMtYIaqtgt/rdt/bTBRi021 iid+CB98Oj0d+Zjtud+ladTM6ZMz4dpG0jNuIWhurc3C4w0ZyY g50oTNrukW+vVIkx1VMB3BPDZIrge21LQK0EOYzwV48whzCtpv 6kCoq0eNqS0heQeeNUE/fM9o37iT1s7YBS5kCQTs4fIT793fV5 iZN7zZQAbB+al0oMuDmh1IVrokNzUyNa5dReZnxV89eFfmp7LY qasl25KdJlsP2VuwFvTT5/reW04HA0axO2baAz1tOXIFcy87hP Esa+cXL4BBFNAjt6Mj7vwdSRCJkcLT1vUZvTtjuflZy9Iakog= = X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1366846014 news.xs4all.nl 15910 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:45353 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:44300 On 04/24/2013 05:09 PM, William Ray Wing wrote: > On Apr 24, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Neil Cerutti wrote: > >> On 2013-04-24, William Ray Wing wrote: >>> When I look at the pool module, the error is occurring in >>> get(self, timeout=None) on the line after the final else: >>> >>> def get(self, timeout=None): >>> self.wait(timeout) >>> if not self._ready: >>> raise TimeoutError >>> if self._success: >>> return self._value >>> else: >>> raise self._value >> >> The code that's failing is in self.wait. Somewhere in there you >> must be masking an exception and storing it in self._value >> instead of letting it propogate and crash your program. This is >> hiding the actual context. >> >> -- >> Neil Cerutti >> -- >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list > > I'm sorry, I'm not following you. The "get" routine (and thus self.wait) is part of the "pool" module in the Python multiprocessing library. > None of my code has a class or function named "get". > > -Bill > My question is why bother with multithreading? Why not just do these as separate processes? You said "they in no way interact with each other" and that's a clear clue that separate processes would be cleaner. Without knowing anything about those libraries, I'd guess that somewhere they do store state in a global attribute or equivalent, and when that is accessed by both threads, it can crash. Separate processes will find it much more difficult to interact, which is a good thing most of the time. Further, they seem to be scheduled more efficiently because of the GIL, though that may not make that much difference when you're time-limited by network data. -- DaveA