Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'assuming': 0.09; 'instance.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'jan': 0.12; 'immutable,': 0.16; 'lowercase': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'trampoline': 0.16; 'all.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'stack': 0.19; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'needed.': 0.30; 'too.': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'common': 0.35; 'created': 0.35; 'method': 0.36; 'version,': 0.38; 'needed': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'received:71': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'stand': 0.64; 'received:fios.verizon.net': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 22:00:03 -0400 References: <648e6136a80.00000651codemonkey@inbox.com> <6C977160E42.0000036Ccodemonkey@inbox.com> <87r43gfjqy.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87ioosffh3.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-175-90-87.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <87ioosffh3.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401156020 news.xs4all.nl 2833 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:51460 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72096 On 5/26/2014 4:32 PM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > I stand corrected. I had thought the trampoline ("bound method object") > was created once and for all. Assuming that bound methods are immutable, this is an implementation detail, either way. However, it is common for a specific method to be called just once on a specific instance. If you have a mixed-case string Ss and want the lowercase version, ss = Ss.lower(), you keep ss around as long as needed. If the bound method is needed repeatedly, you can keep *that* around too. stack = [] spush = stack.append spop = stack.pop for item in it: spush(item) while stack and condition: p = process(spop) ... -- Terry Jan Reedy