Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'purpose.': 0.07; '*is*': 0.09; 'arguments': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'scripting': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'language.': 0.14; 'bytecode': 0.16; 'confuse': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'means.': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'programming': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'script': 0.25; 'compiled': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'points': 0.29; 'statement': 0.30; 'writes:': 0.31; 'run': 0.32; 'running': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'more,': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'too': 0.37; 'ben': 0.38; 'depends': 0.38; 'others.': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'issue': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'slowly': 0.60; "you're": 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'high': 0.63; 'great': 0.65; 'talking': 0.65; 'satisfied': 0.81; 'about?': 0.84; 'alone.': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'subject:source': 0.84; 'sweeping': 0.84; 'time.\xe2\x80\x9d': 0.84; '1988': 0.91; 'subject:Make': 0.91; 'employ': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Make Python Compilable, convert to Python source to Go Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 13:20:22 +1000 References: <4300c94d-316b-46b8-9d51-856b60273334@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nrN3SXm50mj9N0cmKTzcG3L/YSo= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 44 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401074707 news.xs4all.nl 2891 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:57126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72048 bookaa bookaa writes: > Generally, people consider Python as a script language. Count me as one who does not. Python is a general-purpose language. > It has high development efficiency True. > but run too slowly Which Python implementation are you talking about? Run time is not a property of the language. It is a property of the language implementation. > interpret running, and can not compile. Python is always compiled in order to run. The process of turning Python source into Python bytecode *is* compilation. > It depends to Python environment, can not employ alone. True. > For years, many people have do a lot of job try to improve running > speed of Python, include Pypy, Cython. But all of these are not > satisfied. I don't know what this sweeping statement means. Who is not satisfied? There are a great many people who are satisfied with Python for many general purpose needs. Python is not “a scripting language”, it's general purpose. It is compiled. It has many implementations and some are faster than others. So I think you'll need to work on your arguments some more, in order to justify what points you're making. -- \ “… it's best to confuse only one issue at a time.” —Brian W. | `\ Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie, _The C programming language_, | _o__) 1988 | Ben Finney