Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'tia,': 0.09; 'called.': 0.16; 'iterable': 0.16; 'len,': 0.16; 'notation': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wa,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'received:comcast.net': 0.24; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; '(like': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'usually': 0.31; 'produces': 0.31; 'them?': 0.31; 'types.': 0.31; 'subject:the': 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'operations': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'example,': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'sure': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'how': 0.40; 'different': 0.65; 'usa': 0.69; 'operation)': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ned Batchelder Subject: Re: confused about the different built-in functions in Python Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 22:12:19 -0400 References: <648E6136A80.00000651codemonkey@inbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-50-133-228-126.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <648E6136A80.00000651codemonkey@inbox.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401070355 news.xs4all.nl 2847 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:41648 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72043 On 5/25/14 7:55 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: > I am confused about how various built-in functions are called. Some are > called with dot notation > > each_item.isalpha() > > and some are called like 'normal' > > sum(numlist) > > How do you know/remember which way to call them? > > TIA, > Deb in WA, USA It can be confusing. Generally, built-in functions (like sum, len, etc) are used when the operation could apply to many different types. For example, sum() can be used with any iterable that produces addable things. Operations that are defined only for a single type (like .isalpha as a string operation) are usually defined as methods on the type. This is not a black/white distinction, I'm sure there are interesting counter-examples. But this is the general principle. -- Ned Batchelder, http://nedbatchelder.com