Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.albasani.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'encoding': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'encoded': 0.07; 'formatting': 0.09; 'stating': 0.09; 'subject:How': 0.10; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; '-tkc': 0.16; 'displayed.': 0.16; 'encodings': 0.16; 'fine.': 0.16; 'from:addr:python.list': 0.16; 'from:addr:tim.thechases.com': 0.16; 'from:name:tim chase': 0.16; 'header:': 0.16; 'nope,': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'possible,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'preferences': 0.24; 'unicode': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'post': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'character': 0.29; 'gives': 0.31; '-0700,': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'quotes': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'option': 0.32; 'screen': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'display': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'whatever': 0.38; 'ability': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'company': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'offer': 0.62; 'default': 0.69; 'end.': 0.84; 'island': 0.84; 'lonely': 0.84; 'received:50.22': 0.84; 'to:none': 0.92 Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 13:56:08 -0500 From: Tim Chase Cc: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: How keep Python 3 moving forward In-Reply-To: <538233cb$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <87tx8fh50a.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87ha4fgdo9.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <656a6a98-edbd-4784-801f-df82db976084@googlegroups.com> <7b84454a-3ff9-4d68-bb53-77c0fd9f333a@googlegroups.com> <538233cb$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - boston.accountservergroup.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tim.thechases.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: boston.accountservergroup.com: authenticated_id: tim@thechases.com X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1401044198 news.xs4all.nl 2934 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38514 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:72028 On 2014-05-25 18:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2014 10:38:42 -0700, Rustom Mody wrote: > > Your unicode is mojibaked Ethan! Voil=C3=AF=C2=BF=C2=BD. You are hereby > > banished to a lonely island with python 1.5 and jmf for company :D >=20 > Nope, it's you. Ethan's post is fine. He correctly quotes JMF > stating "Voil=C3=A0" (that's LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE), and > Ethan's post correctly gives an encoding header: >=20 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1; format=3Dflowed I corroborate Steven's findings, that Ethan's post was correctly encoded & displayed. > (although, boo to Thunderbird for using a legacy encoding instead > of UTF-8). So his post is fine. Whatever the problem is, it's at > your end. Thunderbird does offer the ability to change default character encodings (Edit -> Preferences -> Display -> Formatting tab -> Advanced...) for sending and receiving, but you have to go out of your way to change them to something like UTF-8. On the same preferences screen TB provides the option to "when possible, use the default character encoding in replies". -tkc