Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'messages.': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'default.': 0.07; 'prefix': 0.07; 'creighton': 0.09; 'messing': 0.09; 'recommends': 0.09; 'replied': 0.09; 'rfc': 0.09; 'also:': 0.16; 'forbids': 0.16; 'parameter,': 0.16; 'permits': 0.16; 'simpson': 0.16; 'violated': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'specifies': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'permitted': 0.22; 'am,': 0.23; 'plain': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'question': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'omitted': 0.29; 'quoting': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'convention': 0.30; "can't": 0.32; 'message.': 0.33; 'common': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'text': 0.35; 'necessary.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'thanks': 0.37; 'link.': 0.37; 'no,': 0.38; 'google': 0.39; 'format': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'him': 0.60; 'per': 0.62; 'linked': 0.63; 'limit': 0.65; 'cameron': 0.66; 'virtually': 0.66; 'reply': 0.68; 'internet': 0.70; '26,': 0.72; 'jul': 0.72; '12:20': 0.84; 'to:name:python': 0.84; 'subject:Gmail': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=xyFfyQMvi3qDKTsetJsYjoXVq8+7FtGTzTT6Y4WFvvQ=; b=kv9wm6mtAU/pgpdIJpK5JuAipQTFa74euCX/A5tQj6N4I7Zdyp31R/Q0zagJf6MEBj 0Rr5QAar34yecqxFgbg8DMdEtqXI/gVRreX2mvcfHYgUSnL+HHQ9EbGRcjz802iQUnm0 hRbuIEY/nTDUf9To9mvoux2wOnvSpDJGpUTt2zPZ3hWkWON6/Tms6EnYmMhrtRBEPYSC hPBEBeaT9oQ7nQt5X8lbDhyJI0tBP8SAnrN00d+xvRZ6fuMEIUxeMmgSENRrQigThkVX ugrqi1UnnjCaUVDU/vFMel8mFN6I+zWQ6KhmZUuuF+kj68Z1VxSYwDuUAPTzV32q/v/J KbwA== X-Received: by 10.50.142.9 with SMTP id rs9mr12931251igb.17.1437945157259; Sun, 26 Jul 2015 14:12:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20150726082056.GA21788@cskk.homeip.net> References: <20150726082056.GA21788@cskk.homeip.net> From: Ian Kelly Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2015 13:11:57 -0800 Subject: Re: Gmail eats Python To: Python Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1437945159 news.xs4all.nl 2894 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55991 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.stben.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:94647 On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:20 AM, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 25Jul2015 22:43, Ian Kelly wrote: >> >> On Jul 25, 2015 4:51 PM, "Ben Finney" wrote: >>> >>> Laura Creighton writes: >>> > So it was my fault by sending him a reply with >>> to the far left. >>> >>> No, it was Google Mail's failt for messing with the content of the >>> message. > > > Specificly, by manking the text without leave(*). > >> What Internet standard is being violated by reflowing text content in >> the message body? > > > RFC3676: http://tools.ietf.org/rfcmarkup?doc=3676 > See also: http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html Thanks for the link. However, this only describes how reflowing is permitted on Format=Flowed messages. Both the message in question and the message it replied to omitted the Format parameter, which per the linked RFC makes them Format=Fixed by default. I can't find any standard discussing how Format=Fixed messages may or may not be reflowed when quoted. The > character that is commonly used as a prefix by virtually all (?) MUAs is also a form of mangling. As far as I know, it is not an Internet standard, just common convention (RFC 3676 specifies it, but again only for Format=Flowed plain text). Is there some standard I'm not aware of that permits quoting but forbids reflowing? Note that RFC 5322 recommends a line length limit of 78 characters and requires a limit of 998 characters, so in a sufficiently long exchange, reflowing would eventually become necessary.