Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.027 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'explicitly': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'says.': 0.09; 'copyright,': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'underlying': 0.16; 'work"': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'else,': 0.19; 'ownership': 0.19; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'interpret': 0.24; 'least': 0.26; 'certain': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.30; 'robert': 0.30; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'fri,': 0.33; 'created': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'range': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'world': 0.66; 'believe': 0.68; 'federal': 0.68; 'us,': 0.73; 'age': 0.80; 'transfer': 0.82; 'eco': 0.84; 'subject:know': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'edwards': 0.91; 'received:86': 0.91; 'subject:want': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Everything you did not want to know about Unicode in Python 3 Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:57:06 +0100 References: <82899649-014a-4309-b06e-b981fc6921fa@googlegroups.com> <201405130145.05995.gheskett@wdtv.com> <857g5q9pvk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <53722081$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5372b091$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5xJcv.77901$dT1.66255@fx12.am4> <5376b63b$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc12-cmbg17-2-0-cust443.5-4.cable.virginm.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 In-Reply-To: <5376b63b$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1400317041 news.xs4all.nl 2846 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39926 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71673 On 2014-05-17 02:07, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2014 14:46:23 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> At least in the US, there doesn't seem to be such a thing as "placing a >> work into the public domain". The copyright holder can transfer >> ownershipt to soembody else, but there is no "public domain" to which >> ownership can be trasferred. > > That's factually incorrect. In the US, sufficiently old works, or works > of a certain age that were not explicitly registered for copyright, are > in the public domain. Under a wide range of circumstances, works created > by the federal government go immediately into the public domain. There is such a thing as the public domain in the US, and there are works in it, but there isn't really such a thing as "placing a work" there voluntarily, as Grant says. A work either is or isn't in the public domain. The author has no choice in the matter. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco