Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.049 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'instance,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'thrown': 0.09; 'am,': 0.13; 'wrote:': 0.15; 'concur': 0.16; 'count,': 0.16; 'do!': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:apologies': 0.16; 'transmit': 0.16; 'alternate': 0.19; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.19; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.19; 'posting': 0.21; 'appears': 0.21; 'math': 0.21; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'english,': 0.23; 'pride': 0.23; 'thu,': 0.28; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'match': 0.30; '"in': 0.30; 'positioned': 0.30; 'values': 0.31; 'chris': 0.32; 'does': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.34; 'someone': 0.34; '(as': 0.34; 'quite': 0.34; "can't": 0.34; 'clearly': 0.35; 'that,': 0.35; 'identical': 0.35; 'structured': 0.35; "isn't": 0.35; 'probably': 0.35; '(for': 0.36; 'issue': 0.37; 'opposed': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'using': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'received:209.85': 0.38; 'two': 0.38; 'common': 0.39; 'subject:with': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'double': 0.62; 'john': 0.62; 'perfectly': 0.64; 'here.': 0.66; 'yourself': 0.68; 'anything.': 0.71; 'subject:The': 0.73; 'quality': 0.74; 'liked': 0.80; 'meter': 0.84; 'original,': 0.84; 'singing': 0.91; 'subject:Who': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=RK8/ToYrXCkpwyn+hO4X+/oRTV8v3d2xYRv66/VcFFs=; b=wvMx6wyS79OGHerXMQ1Mw69h5YsrsOcxbDHoaNAgtzf0GqRmHKmqrPge5gFl3eeBic JdBoeod1mbnQ7FPgdL9lSFlglSYILlWzih+Gaza/5r+XB/sCtxHU90T/cYdzwapz0Wx6 MJ52NPbFIuXgFGzaPbIEo0evueF9ck3SvYiCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9d1facb5-f5a3-4f8a-8de3-fe9fd9906f60@g3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> References: <8479eca3-843d-4857-a857-320da4a93965@u6g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4e1cee94$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9d1facb5-f5a3-4f8a-8de3-fe9fd9906f60@g3g2000prf.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 07:40:19 +1000 Subject: Re: "Python Wizard," with apologies to The Who From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1310593222 news.xs4all.nl 23881 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:55674 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:9446 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 5:31 AM, John Keisling wrote: > I very much appreciate that, coming from someone who clearly values > well-written poetry and lyrics as much as I do! I double majored in > math and English, and I always liked structured poetry. It's very > important to match not only the syllable count, but the meter too. I > also pride myself on never using the same rhyme twice in a song, which > even the original does not manage to do (they used "fall" twice). Having not known the original, I can't properly appreciate the parody, but I wholeheartedly concur with the above. Especially when you transmit your alternate words by email (as opposed to singing it yourself and posting on Youtube, for instance), you need them to scan perfectly so the reader isn't thrown off by anything. The other big pitfall is polysyllabic rhymes, quite common in Gilbert & Sullivan but probably not an issue here. (For instance, if the original rhymes "modern gunnery" with "in a nunnery", then you have to replace that with three-syllable words whose last two syllables are identical and whose first syllables rhyme. Not an easy task!) This appears to be an excellent parody, but others are better positioned to proclaim its quality than I. Chris Angelico