Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.012 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'encoded': 0.07; 'reason,': 0.07; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'claimed': 0.09; 'lime': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '\xe2\x80\x94': 0.09; 'claim,': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'rather,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'where?': 0.16; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; "i've": 0.25; 'subject: : ': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.27; 'appear': 0.29; 'that.': 0.31; 'writes:': 0.31; 'there': 0.35; 'being': 0.38; 'ben': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'read': 0.60; 'length': 0.61; 'real': 0.63; 'soon': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'within': 0.65; 'limit': 0.70; 'abandon': 0.84; 'attacking': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84; 'cognitive': 0.91; 'man.': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: PEP 8 : Maximum line Length : Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:21:21 +1000 References: <5373f400$0$24922$e4fe514c@dreader36.news.xs4all.nl> <600f69c8-541f-4fae-a3db-4da33b776046@googlegroups.com> <8f793d18-1160-401e-b56b-f467122565fc@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Chdp5FiK4SU2cTeOovP33jAZHCc= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1400199694 news.xs4all.nl 2848 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52856 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71633 Rustom Mody writes: > The claim being made is that 79/80 is a fundamental, cognitive limit > and has no relation to technological changes. Who has made that claim, and where? You appear to be attacking a straw man. Rather, I've claimed that the conventional lime length limit is *based in* the real cognitive limits of human reading comprehension — and that technologies have been designed with corresponding limitations. Nowhere have I claimed 79 or 80 are somehow fundamental or encoded in human cognition, and I have seen no-one else claim that. Please try to work within your own cognitive limits and read what people write for comprehension. -- \ “As soon as we abandon our own reason, and are content to rely | `\ upon authority, there is no end to our troubles.” —Bertrand | _o__) Russell, _Unpopular Essays_, 1950 | Ben Finney