Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '16,': 0.03; 'interpreter': 0.05; 'xml,': 0.05; 'subject:PEP': 0.07; 'editor.': 0.09; 'executed': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; 'python': 0.11; 'accepts': 0.16; 'binary,': 0.16; 'competent': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'happily': 0.16; 'pep8': 0.16; 'version"': 0.16; 'whatever,': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'bit': 0.19; 'file,': 0.19; 'version.': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; "shouldn't": 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'source': 0.25; 'compare': 0.26; 'compiled': 0.26; 'subject: : ': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.27; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'style': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'editor': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'version,': 0.38; 'how': 0.40; 'you.': 0.62; 'choose': 0.64; 'zip': 0.64; 'believe': 0.68; 'guides': 0.74; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=F8Qc8UB1cjn8noScz5Q8FWfHIEfw/Vzc8/FCNeb9KGw=; b=OsplksvPuYJSkbBGp8U8l1EH5/zZDx0cr5/cYUDae83dPDrmX9eyPmYefYQgg/q0Mu 39CpVW2l2/eFZzDbPkLONSHQEq0lUP/VPbeGffRo9TZSEJnc0i7R+R1U+XaYEpAq+MXa vu2pTAbUE8TkAJ4Hx7b6HR2ENf2eP7GlVMzaz9NyYy7H4QmFplveW8E/L2AYKQWtQHHs Ry5ivP7XZcH43VwQlRDu0C35xUTna329IZrwgvyU+zYC/zH6BxjEGZZebyVIwF5oIKxB qqUn4kLCt4cwm/7+uVi6nMN58m7z5660g6kDmWmf4wCuGBRpIHMZDaG77/GDz4oU9GPe m5sg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.164.175 with SMTP id yr15mr437403vdb.59.1400163860380; Thu, 15 May 2014 07:24:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8761l7b05y.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <5373f400$0$24922$e4fe514c@dreader36.news.xs4all.nl> <600f69c8-541f-4fae-a3db-4da33b776046@googlegroups.com> <87a9ajb36d.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <78ac407a-c429-4a7a-93c9-5d83e0f09cbb@googlegroups.com> <8761l7b05y.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 00:24:20 +1000 Subject: Re: PEP 8 : Maximum line Length : From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1400163863 news.xs4all.nl 2894 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:48721 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71611 On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: > A definitive Python source file could be binary, XML, .py, .ast, > whatever, and that would also be the file fed to the Python > compiler/interpreter. However, your editor could choose freely how to > present it to you. > > IOW, shouldn't PEP8 be redundant? I believe the Python interpreter happily accepts a zip file, which in theory could be edited directly by a competent text editor. But that has nothing to do with PEP 8. Compare a classic compiled language like C - you have the bit you edit (the C source code) and the "definitive version" that's fed to the program loader (the compiled binary). Style guides apply to the edited version, not to the executed version. ChrisA