Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.015 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:not': 0.03; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'lines,': 0.07; 'pursuing': 0.07; 'verbatim': 0.07; 'inserts': 0.09; 'percentage': 0.09; 'cc:addr :python-list': 0.11; 'assume': 0.14; 'buggy': 0.16; 'complain,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'reasonably': 0.16; 'scare': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'so.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'wed,': 0.18; '>>>': 0.22; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'text.': 0.24; 'question': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'read,': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'lines': 0.31; 'that.': 0.31; '(although': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'everywhere': 0.31; 'quotes': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'violation': 0.31; 'probably': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; '14,': 0.36; 'being': 0.38; 'system,': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'quote': 0.39; 'blank': 0.60; 'forum': 0.61; 'unauthorized': 0.61; 'our': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'reply': 0.66; 'broadcast': 0.68; 'funny': 0.74; 'action.': 0.84; 'legally.': 0.84; 'subject:know': 0.84; 'technically': 0.84; 'subject:you': 0.87; 'obvious,': 0.91; 'subject:want': 0.91; 'to:none': 0.92 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=0An25iwiisksoxxKbTYYWw5EBGHYSbn30uA07xCcco0=; b=luCGiLmACf+1oloin0lo14jH/6pW2WcfRh8bZgT4hC5uPRbpFqLy2ucG+2B4HRljmW //7LDSjFfcjvKIFvBNHa7lUEpZeM1Q4piPzJ8DUrFAqjY1CwPnzGebVWRtSOpluR/1Pm qWhv7NiEM7uOo/uxwRw8Ai/PxbGMJ2NmHZOE1BAn8u6Hs4UHVFsa+TD3DsN08akso6E3 dpAmW/ELqB/W9T8KNQLHZg+seTZ6X/hG27N90ftykjsUwJOjHjiL+SphyGzPw9bRKGj5 8VeZpuWxpgafJXFm+I7a8WgFkh3A71nZwrLNqOV7xBc3Q7puYQiArpIbLfGZQycTmuo0 4uUw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.124.66 with SMTP id mg2mr135979vdb.50.1400071945378; Wed, 14 May 2014 05:52:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5xJcv.77901$dT1.66255@fx12.am4> References: <82899649-014a-4309-b06e-b981fc6921fa@googlegroups.com> <201405130145.05995.gheskett@wdtv.com> <857g5q9pvk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <53722081$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5372b091$0$29977$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5xJcv.77901$dT1.66255@fx12.am4> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 22:52:25 +1000 Subject: Re: Everything you did not want to know about Unicode in Python 3 From: Chris Angelico Cc: "python-list@python.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1400071947 news.xs4all.nl 2923 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36291 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71552 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM, alister wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2014 10:08:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Steven D'Aprano >> wrote: >>> With the current system, all of us here are technically violating >>> copyright every time we reply to an email and quote more than a small >>> percentage of it. >> >> Oh wow... so when someone quotes heaps of text without trimming, and >> adding blank lines, we can complain that it's a copyright violation - >> reproducing our work with unauthorized modifications and without >> permission... >> >> I never thought of it like that. >> >> ChrisA > > I think I could make a very strong case that anything sent to a public > forum with the intention of being broadcast has been placed into the > public domain by this action. I don't think so. One can reasonably assume that anything sent to a public forum is permissible to read, and to copy verbatim (although there may be "presumed limits" on the copying, but probably not with python-list). But if I quote your text and edit it, then you would rightly complain, which is not the case with public domain text. The question is whether or not it's fair to try to scare people with that when they repeatedly use buggy software that inserts blank lines everywhere :) In case it's not obvious, I am NOT seriously contemplating pursuing anything like this legally. It's just funny to contemplate. ChrisA