Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Maier Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Unbuffered stderr in Python 3 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 11:43:18 +0100 Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <5637165b$0$1505$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <874mh39lgu.fsf@fastmail.com> <56397921$0$11094$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <5639dcdf$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de tBM5nh1ijfnwfjyORdjtrAre8C9dOyOJK8obuujgdi1w== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'terminated': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'stderr': 0.09; 'sys.stderr': 0.09; 'thread': 0.10; 'python': 0.10; ':-)': 0.12; 'output': 0.13; 'wed,': 0.15; 'file,': 0.15; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'meant': 0.22; 'written': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'skip:" 20': 0.26; 'prints': 0.29; 'received:132': 0.29; 'code': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; "d'aprano": 0.33; 'steven': 0.33; 'nov': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'show': 0.62; 'our': 0.64; 'was:': 0.66; 'console,': 0.84; 'first?': 0.84; 'redirecting': 0.84; 'seriously,': 0.91; 'going?': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 132.230.194.237 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 In-Reply-To: <5639dcdf$0$1620$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:98219 On 04.11.2015 11:24, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 07:19 pm, Wolfgang Maier wrote: > >> On 04.11.2015 04:18, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >>> >>> This is one of the offending line from our code base: >>> >>> print('<4>Suspicious answer "{}"!'.format(answer), file=sys.stderr) >>> >>> So that ought to be terminated by a newline. And yet, the stderr output >>> doesn't show up until the program exits. >>> >> >> For me, that prints immediately. Where is your output going? Console, >> file, ...? > > Going to stderr, like the whole thread is about :-) > I see :), but seriously, what I meant was: is it going to the console directly or is your code base redirecting sys.stderr to another buffered object first? > > The output does eventually show up written to the console, but only after > Python exits. > > >