Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!news.mixmin.net!eweka.nl!hq-usenetpeers.eweka.nl!news.astraweb.com!border5.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.060 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.88; '*S*': 0.00; 'wiki': 0.03; 'references.': 0.09; 'width': 0.09; 'foot': 0.16; 'footnotes': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hopper': 0.16; 'wire?': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; ':-)': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'pieces': 0.19; '(the': 0.22; 'aug': 0.22; '(or': 0.24; 'asking': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'specifically': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'ideal': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'long.': 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'figure': 0.32; 'fri,': 0.33; 'something': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; "couldn't": 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'dave': 0.60; 'simple': 0.61; 'further': 0.61; 'here:': 0.62; 'information': 0.63; 'maximum': 0.63; 'satellite': 0.68; 'sound': 0.68; '100': 0.79; 'angel': 0.91; 'hair': 0.93; 'imagine': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LEB+cqR27JS0fFtgUDCl3f5PjoAWMn6VzeihJ1Lk9XA=; b=AhjLDoPLO1ZqfBUmnz3rMlyeXkwDSwRF7BpV+nlbkBpMNwVcuNUrMeAZgTMlWoBlfB rqZ3bZOCt6UPhoKJXdqvsjmARGvAz7d6aoGslY+s2/Py5NfQ7W3rtV0Ev5PGMmWvHC/I sL9UHKuhaqDo94dgyVCMEeVBJluNZ8QeN/DmBGlK8CTEuVl4cXZE2ionbQX0gdtc1E5e ifVLLlhBhHdpu52TAIPc1fWcYDBbKyzM+WtQIatxCNFuCEd02hU56OMWJM+hs41lirw/ eggNXciYyjGPijclqe9JkvcV5+C2vSwbF/PXq1qvminZJ+XL7u3vMYyk9qVtNlW8VnyG EzEQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.11.7 with SMTP id r7mr814743vcr.12.1376707540508; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:45:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <520ee226$0$30000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <94f8428f-50b9-4ccd-95a0-6eeafda0fe18@googlegroups.com> <1376499950.3355.9802231.6A03F40D@webmail.messagingengine.com> <98e36bd1-1115-4f1d-b535-171f47408a62@googlegroups.com> <87siybuii8.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> <520CEB96.2050902@mrabarnett.plus.com> <87mwojug2i.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> <520da6d1$0$30000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <520ee226$0$30000$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 03:45:40 +0100 Subject: Re: .split() Qeustion From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 30 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1376707549 news.xs4all.nl 15939 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46919 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:52616 On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 3:38 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 16 Aug 2013 05:27:49 +0000, Dave Angel wrote: > >> I figure it just under a foot. I once attended a lecture by Grace >> Hopper where she handed out "nanoseconds," pieces of wire about a foot >> long. > > Is that based on the speed of light in a vacuum, speed of light in > copper, speed of electron drift in copper, speed of sound in copper? Or > perhaps it was aluminium wire? :-) > >> She said that the beaurocrats were always asking how much is a >> nanosecond, and couldn't imagine what a billionth was like. So she gave >> them something physical. > > I think a simple analogy that works is: the width of a single human hair > is a billionth of 100 metres (or yards, for Americans). People can > visualise 100 metres, and they can visualise a hair. Further information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper#Anecdotes It was specifically looking at satellite comms, and it's the speed of light through a vacuum (the ideal maximum speed of satellite communication signals). Check the Wiki page's footnotes for reliable references. ChrisA