Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Erik Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Exended ASCII and code pages [was Re: for / while else doesn't make sense] Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 09:11:15 +0100 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> <5746AFA3.9020303@lucidity.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de wxCcACXyulgk2RhaXKI7Xgtuk/yvgQwdzHFQbDy0Y2Eg== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.023 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'binary': 0.05; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'observation': 0.09; 'subject:while': 0.09; 'wed,': 0.15; 'subject: \n ': 0.15; '2016': 0.16; '8-bit': 0.16; 'ebcdic': 0.16; 'encodings': 0.16; 'erik': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'interchange.': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'sorts': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'say,': 0.18; 'ascii': 0.22; 'stephen': 0.22; 'code,': 0.23; 'proprietary': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'ibm': 0.27; 'coded': 0.29; 'decimal': 0.29; 'subject: [': 0.29; '(including': 0.30; 'system,': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'probably': 0.31; 'point': 0.33; 'closely': 0.33; 'previous': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'really': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; "didn't": 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'making': 0.62; 'linked': 0.63; 'subject: / ': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'card': 0.63; 'information': 0.63; 'american': 0.69; 'funny': 0.83; 'cobol': 0.84; 'interchange': 0.84; 'recall,': 0.84; 'subject:else': 0.84; 'subject:sense': 0.84; 'dennis': 0.91 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=O6PEx0JW c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:117 a=JBpuNAvKTJOW008ppJp5Sw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=EBOSESyhAAAA:8 a=j81k0zQtuY72noE1hSkA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=yJM6EZoI5SlJf8ks9Ge_:22 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <5746AFA3.9020303@lucidity.plus.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5743a8d2$0$1587$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <7D6476C4-9969-4648-AB43-4CE0C7115B9C@icloud.com> <57457c4f$0$11122$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <57461326.5040606@lucidity.plus.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:109142 On 26/05/16 02:28, Dennis Lee Bieber wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 22:03:34 +0100, Erik > declaimed the following: > >> Indeed - at that time, I was working with COBOL on an IBM S/370. On that >> system, we used EBCDIC ASCII. That was the wierdest ASCII of all ;) >> > It would have to be... Extended Binary Coded Decimal Interchange Code, > as I recall, predates American Standard Code for Information Interchange. > > EBCDIC's 8-bit code is actually more closely linked to Hollerith card > encodings. I really didn't think it would be necessary to point this out (I thought the "" and emoji would be enough), but for the record, my previous message was clearly a joke. To break it down, Stephen was making the observation that people call all sorts of extended ASCII encodings (including proprietary things) "ASCII". So I took it to the extreme and called something that had nothing to do with ASCII a type of ASCII. As they say, if one has to explain one's jokes then they are probably not funny ... :( E.