Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: MRAB Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: psss...I want to move from Perl to Python Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2016 03:34:44 +0000 Lines: 61 Message-ID: Reply-To: MRAB Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de FuDKhfp4p7lesZQTyN2KwwIERtQB2M16GhJLlHHYwO5A== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.046 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.91; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'friday,': 0.07; 'plenty': 0.07; 'optional': 0.09; 'statements': 0.09; 'unexpected': 0.09; 'worse': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; ':-)': 0.12; '2016': 0.16; '3.3,': 0.16; '>on': 0.16; '>that': 0.16; 'buggy': 0.16; 'from:addr:mrabarnett.plus.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:python': 0.16; 'from:name:mrab': 0.16; 'interest,': 0.16; 'received:192.168.1.4': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'useless': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; '>>>': 0.20; 'windows': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'posted': 0.21; 'feb': 0.23; 'nearly': 0.23; 'tutorials': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '3.0': 0.27; 'said,': 0.27; 'tend': 0.27; 'behaviour': 0.29; 'intellectual': 0.29; 'release.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'mention': 0.30; 'posts': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'certain': 0.31; 'everyone': 0.31; 'post': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.32; "can't": 0.32; 'though,': 0.32; 'useful': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'next': 0.35; 'done': 0.35; 'false': 0.35; 'skip:> 10': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'beginning': 0.36; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'johnson': 0.37; 'things': 0.38; 'difference': 0.38; 'january': 0.38; 'anything': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; 'someone': 0.38; 'subject:from': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'rather': 0.39; 'build': 0.40; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'skip:n 10': 0.62; 'matter': 0.63; '30,': 0.63; 'saturday,': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'day.': 0.63; 'you.': 0.64; 'rare': 0.66; 'here': 0.66; 'header:Reply-To:1': 0.67; 'day': 0.67; 'incredibly': 0.76; 'attention': 0.76; 'hoping': 0.77; '3.5.1': 0.84; 'banned': 0.84; 'curl': 0.84; 'mandatory.': 0.84; 'rehashed': 0.84; 'utc+5:30,': 0.84; 'absolutely': 0.88; 'tricks.': 0.91; 'not:': 0.93; 'rick': 0.93; 'subject:want': 0.93; 'suffering': 0.93 X-CM-Score: 0.00 X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=K//fZHiI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:117 a=0nF1XD0wxitMEM03M9B4ZQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=5TFdhXtx1m4lMUg3CzAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-AUTH: mrabarnett@:2500 In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eM_Client/6.0.24432.0 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:102384 On 2016-02-01 03:15:10, "Chris Angelico" wrote: >On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Rustom Mody =20 >wrote: >> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:57:28 PM UTC+5:30, wxjmf wrote: >> >>> Python 3.5.1 is still suffering from the same buggy >>> behaviour as in Python 3.0 . >> >> is banned >> >> whereas this is not: >> >> On Saturday, January 30, 2016 at 3:01:09 AM UTC+5:30, Rick Johnson=20 >>wrote: >>> On Friday, January 29, 2016 at 6:21:21 AM UTC-6, Ulli Horlacher=20 >>>wrote: >>> > I nearly gave up with Python at the very beginning before >>> > I realised that OO-programming is optional in Python! :-) >>> > Most tutorials I found so far makes OO mandatory. >>> >>> Just more evidence that old dogs are incapable of learning >>> new tricks. Either learn how to wield Neuroplasticity to >>> your advantage, or go curl up into a ball and wait for death >>> to come. People who are unwilling to "expanding their >>> intellectual horizons" make me sick!!! >> >> >> Not to mention endless screeds like this one: >> >> [chomp more Ranting Rick] >> >> Can someone explain the policy? > >Bannings for anything other than out-and-out spam are incredibly rare >(as they should be). The main difference is: Rick posts good content >veiled by poor framing, but jmf posts the same rehashed whining about >the same microbenchmarks, the same unbacked false statements about how >Python is "mathematically incorrect", and absolutely no useful >content. I tend to skim Rick's posts looking for anything that's >actually of interest, but jmf's posts never have anything. > In his defence, he _was_ the one who drew attention to the unexpected=20 slowness of the FSR under certain circumstances in the Windows build of=20 Python 3.3, albeit in a rather over-dramatised way. That problem was gone in the next bug-fix release. > >There are a lot of people here who post good content but phrase things >poorly. And everyone has a bad day. (Terry Reedy, I'm hoping this was >just a bad day - there were several rather caustic posts from you. >Sorry to single you out, but I can't think of anyone else recently >who's done that.) So long as there's something useful being said, the >community would be worse off for their removal. > >That said, though, I would GREATLY prefer Rick to post less >provocatively. But I'm not calling for his banning any more than I'd >call for Terry's, or my own, for that matter (I've posted plenty of >off-topic or otherwise useless posts). >