Path: csiph.com!au2pb.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'passionate': 0.05; 'atmosphere.': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'bad;': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'essential': 0.20; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'publicly': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'surely': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'list': 0.34; 'advice': 0.35; 'subject:time': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'community': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'personal': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'skip:\xe2 10': 0.70; 'honest': 0.76; '_o__)': 0.84; 'received:125': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Ben Finney Subject: Re: Sometimes bottle takes a lot of time Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:01:04 +1000 References: <87si7cnxq6.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87io87o93w.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87twrrmpvp.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: jigong.madmonks.org X-Public-Key-ID: 0xAC128405 X-Public-Key-Fingerprint: 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405 X-Public-Key-URL: http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc X-Post-From: Ben Finney User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:t6LI1AEpKT4WErnKtgOsVoTXwu8= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1440374482 news.xs4all.nl 23723 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40522 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:95603 Johannes Bauer writes: > You're entirely right that this kind of personal feud and immature > mockery is inappropriate for a mailing list and you're also right that > it does create a toxic atmosphere. Since Python is the lanauge I'm > most passionate about a detrimental effect on the Python community is > something that is surely the exact opposite of what I want. […] > I'll follow your advice and thank you for your honest words. Thank you for publicly acknowledging this, and for taking responsibility for positive change. This is essential to keeping our community healthy. -- \ “Technology is neither good nor bad; nor is it neutral.” | `\ —Melvin Kranzberg's First Law of Technology | _o__) | Ben Finney