Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Gene Heskett Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: What exactly is "exact" (was Clean Singleton Docstrings) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:35:45 -0400 Lines: 74 Message-ID: References: <201607191635.45810.gheskett@shentel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de cT3VB7Ye3ylHTuZMWcBWZgTLrRQktfJIXr/iPdaK1vKQ== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: UNSURE 0.237 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.54; '*S*': 0.02; 'method.': 0.05; 'sufficient': 0.05; 'thats': 0.07; 'wednesday,': 0.07; 'brace': 0.09; 'second.': 0.09; 'separating': 0.09; 'simplified': 0.09; 'sections': 0.13; '2016': 0.16; '4100': 0.16; 'did,': 0.16; 'foot': 0.16; 'gentle': 0.16; 'ground,': 0.16; 'oak': 0.16; 'ohm': 0.16; 'peak': 0.16; 'pulling': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'rings': 0.16; 'soap,': 0.16; 'subject:Singleton': 0.16; 'sugar': 0.16; 'weight,': 0.16; 'wording': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'later': 0.16; 'fairly': 0.22; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'cheers,': 0.22; 'defined': 0.23; 'bit': 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'long,': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'rest': 0.26; 'connected': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'convert': 0.29; 'typically': 0.29; 'push': 0.30; "i'd": 0.31; 'guess': 0.31; 'seconds': 0.31; "can't": 0.32; 'point': 0.33; 'focusing': 0.33; 'next': 0.35; 'could': 0.35; 'done': 0.35; 'clear': 0.35; 'feed': 0.35; 'unit': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:non-standard http port': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'stuff': 0.38; 'log': 0.38; 'end': 0.39; 'area': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'called': 0.40; 'some': 0.40; 'reached': 0.60; 'ever': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.61; 'real': 0.62; 'back': 0.62; 'per': 0.62; 'course': 0.62; 'day.': 0.63; 'grab': 0.64; 'between': 0.65; 'air': 0.65; 'contact': 0.66; '20,': 0.66; 'frequency': 0.66; 'lowered': 0.66; 'pin': 0.66; 'reverse': 0.66; 'forward': 0.66; 'cut': 0.67; 'north': 0.67; 'repeat': 0.67; 'seat': 0.67; 'home': 0.67; 'drug': 0.72; 'electrical': 0.72; 'overall': 0.72; 'received:204': 0.75; 'dollar': 0.76; 'hand': 0.82; '440': 0.84; 'about,': 0.84; 'bridging': 0.84; 'cubes': 0.84; 'dry': 0.84; 'fifty': 0.84; 'hitch': 0.84; 'hooked': 0.84; 'lived': 0.84; 'loose': 0.84; 'rinse': 0.84; 'rises': 0.84; 'slam': 0.84; 'together,': 0.84; 'tube': 0.84; 'tube,': 0.84; 'voltage': 0.84; 'giants': 0.91; 'power,': 0.91; 'walking': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; 'feet': 0.96; 'hundred': 0.96 X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1468960546-0aa8521c383634190001-tYLEC7 X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: gheskett@shentel.net X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: n64s149.fttx.shentel.net[204.111.64.149] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 204.111.64.149 X-Barracuda-RBL-IP: 204.111.64.149 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: What exactly is "exact" (was Clean Singleton Docstrings) User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 (enterprise35 0.20100827.1168748) In-Reply-To: X-KMail-QuotePrefix: > Content-Disposition: inline X-Barracuda-Connect: smtp1.edbg.cloud.shentel.net[204.111.2.17] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1468960546 X-Barracuda-URL: https://barracuda1.shentel.net:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 4222 X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at cloud.shentel.net X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Evidence: geneslinuxbox.net X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.50 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.50 using per-user scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=6.0 tests=WEIRD_PORT X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.31379 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.50 WEIRD_PORT URI: Uses non-standard port number for HTTP X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 17:17:40 -0400 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <201607191635.45810.gheskett@shentel.net> X-Mailman-Original-References: Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:111644 On Tuesday 19 July 2016 13:46:37 Lawrence D=E2=80=99Oliveiro wrote: > On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 12:07:25 AM UTC+12, Gene Heskett wrote: > > This klystron amplifier, a new one of which was north of $125,000 in > > the 1970's when I learned about them, is a long tube, around 5 feet > > long with alternating sections of copper tubeing and ceramic > > insulators separating the copper sections. Typically 4 ceramic > > sections, each of which was sealed to a section of copper equiped > > with contact rings on each end of the copper sections. A tunable box > > cavity connected the copper sections together, bridging the ceramic > > spacer, so that when the tube was "dressed" with these cavity's, and > > lowered into its focusing magnet, (2200 lbs) you could feed about 1 > > watt of signal into the top cavity... > > What is this =E2=80=9Cwatt=E2=80=9D of which you speak? How much is that = in > foot-poundals per second? A unit of electrical power, simplified to 1 volt at 1 amp =3D 1 watt when=20 that currant is passed thru a 1 ohm resistor. But since the majority of=20 radio frequency stuff is designed for a characteristic impedance of 50=20 ohms, then the currant is 20 milliamps while the voltage rises to 50=20 volts. And I am not familiar with this foot-poundals per second that you=20 question about, but just from the wording I'd say it is a fifty dollar=20 way to say horsepower. Which is defined in the area of exerting a force=20 to a 440 pound weight, sufficient to lift that weight one foot in one=20 second. Thats for an average horse. I was once in the seat of a stuck in the mud=20 clear above the drawbar of a 1930's Case LA farm tractor. About 8500=20 lbs. Daddy whistled up King & Colonial, a pair of perches that between=20 them weighted a hundred or so above the 4000 pound mark on the dial at=20 the elevator. :) He also dug out a brace & bit to make a new double-tree=20 out of a 7 foot length of well seasoned Iowa oak cut full native size of=20 2" thick by 12" wide. And despite the rationing in effect at the end of=20 WW-II when this took place, found a lb of sugar cubes for his overall=20 pocket. Harnessing up the perches, he hooked the traces to this new=20 double-tree, and cleviced a 75 foot length of 1/2" chain to it. He=20 brought them down to where the tractor could be reached from fairly dry=20 ground, drug that chain down and hooked it to the back frame of the 4=20 bottom 16" plow I was pulling at the time, pulled the hitch pin after=20 digging down to it, waded back the the perches and took a place where he=20 could grab the bridals and made tsk tsk noises. Pulling the plow was=20 done so it would not be in the way. Lead them back and brought the=20 chain back & hooked it to the drawbar. Walking back to the horses he=20 had a small handfull of sugar cubes in each hand and gave it to them.=20 Then grasping the bridals again, a push forward with the tsk tsk. Then a=20 whoa. They had found they were stuck and would need to put some real=20 pull on that chain the next time, which they did, digging a trench under=20 their bellies for about 10 feet when daddy said whoa again. The tractor=20 had moved. So he gave me instructions to put it in reverse and to be=20 ready to slam the clutch lever home the next time it moved. After a breather, wash, rinse and repeat and the tractor was back on dry=20 ground. At peak pull, that 75 feet of 1/2" log chain was up in the air=20 about 6" in the middle. Now if any of you know how to convert that=20 mid-sag amount, the pull on the chain can be deduced, its called the=20 intercept point method. My guess is that that 4100 lbs of horseflesh=20 were peaking at 10,000 lbs on the far end of that chain. They of course=20 can't do it for very long, 10 seconds perhaps, but by then I was loose=20 and all they were dragging was the chain. The horses got the rest of that pound of sugar cubes. Those were the two=20 most gentle giants I have ever lived around. WW-II ended just a couple=20 months later with V-J day. Cheers, Gene Heskett =2D-=20 "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." =2DEd Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page