Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.058 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'wed,': 0.03; ':-)': 0.06; 'slice': 0.07; 'googling': 0.09; 'magnitude': 0.09; 'that!': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'heavier': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'warn': 0.16; 'thanks!': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.17; 'received:74.125.82.44': 0.19; 'received:mail-ww0-f44.google.com': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; 'url:wiki': 0.23; 'thanks.': 0.27; 'testing': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'exercise': 0.29; 'subject:?': 0.29; 'bit': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'fact': 0.30; 'thank': 0.35; 'breaking': 0.35; 'typical': 0.35; 'probably': 0.36; 'similar': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'keyboard': 0.37; 'url:en': 0.37; 'received:74.125.82': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.38; 'url:org': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'spent': 0.39; 'more': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'url:co': 0.62; 'order': 0.62; 'importantly,': 0.67; 'nothing.': 0.67; 'piano': 0.67; 'hands': 0.69; 'advantages': 0.77; 'childhood': 0.84; 'finger,': 0.84; 'movements': 0.84; 'subject:Improve': 0.84; 'wood': 0.84; 'adult': 0.91; 'finger': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=74eJeiNtA2gEXf0PqaN6ol7p+Hg54k1Rwso/ZNFqERU=; b=MSfU46iVmjExAkLJbFGfoPzBr8BQ9SlOPVcLmW+RsWdCXmrY4dqqZFtnHpcTVEjMaG RpmzOofS1xGs73OA6OatYGiE3+aXf4jtt93JxA6GZNwiXcmOtJQA4DE9s47Ji4R+BEAb RJh47JJ9oA/zdY1y+T0bjg8lFyV69zkEsZNmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=G34qMt7eU6I7R1QX5760Vp8NnXDiBJjSUO7a+lXpqw5IbhZzDRAVyNCKMNUAezGi30 h43E6veIEdqBYvAbmCPJLt4C0ctVP4u201iCwwNwaQR37DwTveE5FgA/0/EwZsuen/6l aB3NV1Jtku/vKV9eDOLK986kk5lBHBrfLQFeU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6c3796c9-97af-4a1a-ab02-40375ce4bfb6@k15g2000pri.googlegroups.com> References: <355e201c-437c-4944-9ad0-ae401df02651@22g2000prx.googlegroups.com> <4f4bv6hn40jsgpecuelejc66n7rkhv17fj@4ax.com> <26876242-ffa3-45e3-9ed7-5a40dafb1011@v10g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> <51ed065a-8ec7-425e-a43f-1c62575a1d6b@18g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <6c3796c9-97af-4a1a-ab02-40375ce4bfb6@k15g2000pri.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:32:01 +0300 Subject: Re: Keyboard Layout: Dvorak vs Colemak: is it Worthwhile to Improve the Dvorak Layout? From: Dotan Cohen To: rusi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 31 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1308141123 news.xs4all.nl 49184 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:49753 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:7689 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 15:19, rusi wrote: >> Thank you rusi! Tell me, where can I read more about the advantages of >> each finger? Googling turns up nothing. My intention is to improved >> the Noah ergonomic keyboard layout. Thanks! > > Dont know how to answer that! I only have my experience to go by :-) > > If you've spent a childhood and many of your adult hours breaking your > hands on Czerny > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Czerny > and Hanon eg exercise 4 http://www.hanon-online.com/the-virtuoso-pianist/part-i/exercise-n-4/ > you will come to similar conclusions. > > I should warn however that even for a modern electronic piano the > action is larger and heavier than a typical (computer) keyboard and > for a real/acoustic piano with a foot long slice of wood moved for > each keystroke its probably an order of magnitude heavier. > > So its not exactly clear how much the experience of one carries over > to the other > Thanks. From testing small movements with my fingers I see that the fourth finger is in fact a bit weaker than the last finger, but more importantly, it is much less dexterous. Good to know! -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com