Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets.

From	Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.lang.python
Subject	Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets.
Date	2011-04-19 23:54 +0000
Organization	PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
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On 2011-04-19, Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 20-4-2011 1:21, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> 
>> If I don't call bind(), then the broadcast packets go out the wrong
>> interface on the sending machine.
>
> Fair enough.
>
> Next issue then: as far as I know, broadcast packets are by default
> not routed across subnets by gateways. Which is a good thing.
>
> That would explain why your receiver doesn't see the packets unless
> its interface IP address is in the same subnet as the sender's.
>
> However it doesn't explain (for me) why the tcpdump program running
> on that same receiver machine still happily spits out received
> packets.

The two machines are on the same Ethernet segment (they're connected
via a dumb Ethernet switch).

Tcpdump shows the packets because the packets are being received by
the receiving machine's Ethernet interface.  They have a destination
MAC of ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff, so everybody on the logical Ethernet segment
receives them.

I guess the problem is that I expected to receive a packet on an
interface anytime a packet was received with a destination IP address
that matched that of the the interface.  Apprently there's some
filtering in the network stack based on the _source_ address as well
(that seems very counter-intuitive to me).

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Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 22:21 +0000
  Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-20 01:13 +0200
    Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 23:21 +0000
      Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Irmen de Jong <irmen.NOSPAM@xs4all.nl> - 2011-04-20 01:40 +0200
        Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 16:52 -0700
          Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 00:09 +0000
            Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 10:53 +1000
              Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 01:15 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 11:24 +1000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 03:05 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 20:12 -0700
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:31 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 15:42 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 20:16 -0700
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:21 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 18:35 -0700
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-21 14:22 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2011-04-21 08:22 +0200
            Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Roy Smith <roy@panix.com> - 2011-04-19 23:35 -0400
              Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:23 +0000
            Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Sherm Pendley <sherm.pendley@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 06:07 -0400
              Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@whitemice.org> - 2011-04-20 06:20 -0400
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 15:37 +0000
        Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-19 23:54 +0000
          Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2011-04-20 08:45 +0200
            Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:30 +0000
              Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Heiko Wundram <modelnine@modelnine.org> - 2011-04-20 16:53 +0200
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 15:24 +0000
                Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 15:32 +0000
              Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 15:50 +0000
  Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Dan Stromberg <drsalists@gmail.com> - 2011-04-19 16:40 -0700
    Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 00:00 +0000
      Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> - 2011-04-20 10:32 +1000
  Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Thomas Heller <theller@ctypes.org> - 2011-04-20 12:18 +0200
    Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 14:35 +0000
  Re: Problem receiving UDP broadcast packets. Grant Edwards <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2011-04-20 22:25 +0000

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