X-Received: by 10.224.172.66 with SMTP id k2mr5189737qaz.4.1372903006536; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:56:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.28.66 with SMTP id z2mr103398qeg.5.1372903006513; Wed, 03 Jul 2013 18:56:46 -0700 (PDT) Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!news.glorb.com!t19no127833qam.0!news-out.google.com!f7ni806qai.0!nntp.google.com!t19no127827qam.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 18:56:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=65.183.81.59; posting-account=h7ZmAgoAAAChnNHfIDF1M6YGHuonryl5 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.183.81.59 References: <51d17954$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51d1a173$0$29999$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <51D1D484.5070309@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D27FB9.7040406@rece.vub.ac.be> <51D2C113.6070105@rece.vub.ac.be> <7wsizwh9r9.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <72d35bd5-7048-4b8a-8a50-229a54703f05@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: python adds an extra half space when reading from a string or list From: rurpy@yahoo.com Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2013 01:56:46 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:49796 On 07/03/2013 05:12 PM, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 3 July 2013 02:21, wrote: >[...] >> The reality is that few of the people at whom such statements >> are aimed will make such fine distinction. If you use negatively >> judgemental statements against other posters, a significant >> number of them will respond to you in kind. > > I think most people will take "you are stupid" and "what you've done > is stupid" to have very different levels of hostility, even though the > same thing to be said has been expressed. That does not mean people > will not take offense at the second, but they will take less. I > believe that this does generalise. I think the first is perceived as more hostile not because of any character vs behavior difference but simply because it is broader -- the implication is that most anything done by the person will be stupid rather than one specific action for the second. If one compares "you're stupid to have done that" (character) vs "what you've done is stupid" (behavior), I am not sure there is much difference; at least I don't think I'd make much distinction. IOW, I maintain that it is the "stupid" part that results in the major part of the recipient's negative reaction. Of course since neither of us are psychologists this is all pretty speculative. > Note that I am not advocating calling people's actions stupid, as it > is still just a harsher way of saying "you've made a mistake". Agreed, 100%.