Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.11.MISMATCH!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe01.iad.POSTED!00000000!not-for-mail From: harrismh777 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101206 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: checking if a list is empty References: <9hYwp.5805$xo2.3333@newsfe07.iad> <4dc502c7$0$29991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8354770a-d69d-4132-b0ba-2d610eab2fe7@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <8354770a-d69d-4132-b0ba-2d610eab2fe7@d26g2000prn.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: jjlkoaaenkpjlfcemkkkjhejocceaahm X-Complaints-To: abuse@charter.net X-Trace: bcpcmoabmkbfloblffhhjjcnmknpkahnodbgeiiffggmngkmjjlkoaaenkpjlfcennjbeaedhigojemkkhgdiigdoicjpoojnhnjenanglgkoidbomgljiagjedclchnbgjklipccefckbgb NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 03:53:45 UTC Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 22:53:45 -0500 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:5190 alex23 wrote: >> through intuitive language skills. Why not? > Because the vast majority of them don't seem to want to be bothered? > That could very well be... but I have a hope for them. I honestly think its not because they don't want to be bothered, rather they just think its too far past them... and not do-able. This is where I think it would be helpful at the undergraduate level to insist that *all* students learn some programming (and yes, using Python). Actually, I am thinking that it would be great to begin this in grade school. But then, I'm also one of those Americans who believe that every student should learn at least (1) non-English language beginning in 1st grade--- mandatory. (of course others are just hoping they learn English...) kind regards, m harris