Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marko Rauhamaa Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Values and objects Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 09:21:59 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <87ppjksum0.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <235C4BFA-9770-481A-9FCF-21C3F036769C@gmail.com> <87ppjpwafk.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <536ad8f2$0$29965$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87zjiqbmy5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <536d7a7d$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <9cc0ebf9-dbed-4d3d-91fc-2abb9b0103d0@googlegroups.com> <536dc3f7$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536decca$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536E799D.6080602@stoneleaf.us> <536eebc1$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <536f069b$0$29980$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <3fb2d95e-2fb6-43a5-a725-c6d38444b80c@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="ff5cf27ef3d5b31f034d3b72bdc27a41"; logging-data="6716"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19seK/T4+OH3XpIuUMbNAe6" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Kse5oT4H/vDlPzpcZPo6pvBYdxI= sha1:WpQUY1KCNbn1vgx8ZA5uGHnuJ7U= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:71297 Rustom Mody : > On Saturday, May 10, 2014 2:39:31 PM UTC+5:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote: >> >> Personally, I don't imagine that there ever could be a language where >> variables were first class values *exactly* the same as ints, >> strings, floats etc. > > [...] > > What you mean by *exactly* the same mean, I am not sure... Lisp variables (symbols) are on an equal footing with other objects. IOW, lisp variables are objects in the heap. Marko