Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marko Rauhamaa Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Guido sees the light: PEP 8 updated Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 01:30:07 +0300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <87potp5gr4.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> References: <5711c1b3$0$1596$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87shym6kpo.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87h9f26ioa.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <1460809922.1918014.580580553.0AE05EE4@webmail.messagingengine.com> <878u0d7az5.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <85vb3huxjn.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <20160416165027.0fe70e5f@bigbox.christie.dr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: mx02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="b7cb1518d23ec19d482dcc9c31d30fdd"; logging-data="7763"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19nE7WSL08R4ms25wOC2u58" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9LZHNkQSCePnH7y1l8kASRT+kQQ= sha1:J4Fp8uCsJd0tV+geMCgOlhn3XNY= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107127 Tim Delaney : > Personally, I've given up on 80 characters (or even 120 in rare cases) > for Java code (esp method declarations), where just specifying the > generics can often take almost that much. Java generics ruined a perfectly good language. I mean: Map> customersOfAccountManager = new HashMap>(); where classic Java would have: Map customersOfAccountManager = new HashMap(); and Python simply: customers_of_account_manager = {} However, even during my Java years, I didn't give up on the 79-character religion (see above). Marko