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From: Marko Rauhamaa <marko@pacujo.net>
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Subject: Re: Python 3.2 has some deadly infection
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2014 17:10:58 +0300
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Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us>:

> On 06/05/2014 11:30 AM, Marko Rauhamaa wrote:
>> A fundamental text file is such that ordinary operating system
>> facilities can't see inside the black box (that is, they are *not*
>> encoded as far as the applications go).
>
> Of course they are.

How would you know?

> It may be an ASCII-encoding of some flavor or other, or something
> really (to me) strange -- but an encoding is most assuredly in affect.

Outside metaphysics, that statement is only meaningful if you have
access to the encoding.

> ASCII is *not* the state of "this string has no encoding" -- that
> would be Unicode; a Unicode string, as a data type, has no encoding.

Huh?


Marko