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Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method?

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Date 2014-08-13 23:24 -0700
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Subject Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method?
From wxjmfauth@gmail.com

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Le mercredi 13 août 2014 20:36:55 UTC+2, Jason Swails a écrit :
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp....@pearwood.info> wrote:
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> Ethan Furman wrote:
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> > On 08/13/2014 09:00 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
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> >> What is the rationale for str not having __radd__ method?
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> >
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> > At a guess I would say because string only knows how to add itself to
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> > other strings, so __add__ is sufficient.
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> # Python 2.7
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> py> "Hello" + u"World"
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> u'HelloWorld'
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> py> unicode.__radd__
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> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
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>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
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> AttributeError: type object 'unicode' has no attribute '__radd__'
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> 
> This happens because the str.__add__ function calls string_concat under the hood (see Objects/stringobject.c) -- there's a unicode check on the other operand that results in the result of PyUnicode_Concat being returned instead of the concatenated str type.  This doesn't require that unicode define __radd__.
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> When the left-hand operand is Unicode, PyUnicode_Concat is called directly (which is why the exception message is different for u'this' + 1 and 'this' + 1):
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> >>> 'this' + 1
> Traceback (most recent call last):
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>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects
> 
> >>> u'this' + 1
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>
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> TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, int found
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> All the best,
> Jason

--------

This is more funny.

>>> print u'a' + 'a'
aa
>>> print 'a' + u'a'
aa
>>> print u'a' + 'é'

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<pyshell#4>", line 1, in <module>
    print u'a' + 'é'
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe9 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128)
>>> 

Python? The single language, which tried (and still tries
to make the ascii world compatible with the unicode
world.

In a somwhow symmetrical way, but a little bit
differently, the situation in Python 3 is even worse.

jmf

PS See my comment about the Euro sign in a previous
thread.


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Why does str not have a __radd__ method? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-14 02:00 +1000
  Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-13 10:27 -0700
    Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method? Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> - 2014-08-14 03:55 +1000
      Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method? Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> - 2014-08-13 11:22 -0700
      Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method? Jason Swails <jason.swails@gmail.com> - 2014-08-13 14:36 -0400
        Re: Why does str not have a __radd__ method? wxjmfauth@gmail.com - 2014-08-13 23:24 -0700

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