Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!news.snarked.org!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!panix!not-for-mail From: dkcombs@panix.com (David Combs) Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: I'd like to try Perl... Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 02:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Public Access Networks Corp. Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix1.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1372818706 12263 166.84.1.1 (3 Jul 2013 02:31:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 02:31:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.perl.misc:8571 In article , John Black wrote: >In article , >marc.girod@gmail.com says... >> Note also the Cygwin option... > >Yeah, spend a few minutes checking out the cygwin environment. I started with Strawberry >Perl and ended up removing it and installing cygwin. You get perl and tons more if you want. >You choose what you want installed or not installed but what you end up with is an >environment and set of tools that looks like and includes most of what you get with Unix. In >fact, when I'm in a cygwin terminal, I can pretty much behave as if its a unix window and >everything seems to work as I expect. > >John Black Sorry, I use cygwin (via *shell* in emacs), but I don't know what this "cygwin terminal" is. I probably would benefit from it! Any comments or help on it? Thanks! --- One problem I have is getting the *cygwin* shell stuff to work: (this is from some time ago, so I might have forgotten a bit of what I did): I (thought I) found that if I wanted to use pipes, variables, etc within a cygwin shell (sh, tcsh (I believe), etc), then I was required to use that horrible windows "cmd" black-and-white window, which was really, really gross. One problem I had was that I could not prepare IN EMACS a command to execute there, and paste that command into that horrible cmd window. Could only type it in there by hand, character by character. Likewise, I think I recall, it was difficult or impossible to "copy" text from within that window (for pasting elsewhere); copying and pasting simply didn't work in cmd windows. Question: have you found a way to run cygwin shells, etc, other than within a cmd window? Question: have you found a way TO do copy, paste, etc with a cmd window? And, generally, how do people run the cygwin shells? In what environment? Question: how do they get the full features of one of those shells to work, within emacs? Within, say, *shell* or *eshell*? THANKS MUCH FOR ANY HELP! David