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From "Lothar Kimmeringer" <lothar.kimmeringer@THRWHITE.remove-dii-this>
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Fred wrote:

> I read indeed about the fact that Strings were special in Java. The 
> problem here is that I can't really figure out how to get rid of 
> Strings... :(

As I said. Assume that you can't.

> Reading the initial password (html -> servlet) is done through a String 
> (because getParameter gives its result in a String). Is there a way to 
> read an HttpServletRequest parameter without generating a String?

Not that I'm aware of but you can't answer that without knowing
what implementation of the Servlet-API you are using. That means,
you can avoid the creation of String by implementing your own
Servlet-API-implementation, e.g. by downloading Jetty and changing
the corresponding class.

> Besides this, after being read, the password is sent to a web service 
> via a method that awaits a String as parameter. The java sources for 
> accessing the web service are generated using WSDL2Java, and I'm not 
> sure that I'm able to tell that I'd rather use a character-array than a 
> String.

Using Axis you can change the generated stubs from String to
char[] and implement a Serializer and Deserializer that is
taking care of the correct handling.

On the other hand you might change the whole concept of trans-
fering passwords themselves and change to a challenge/response-
system, where the password is used for encoding the challenge.
That way you don't have passwords as Strings in HTTP-requests
and even if somebody can sniff the data-transfer the password
is not revealed.

> So I guess here that, internally, in my servlet, I would be able to 
> manage/store the password as a character-array. But the problem is more 
> in all the communication around the servlet (html -> servlet and servlet 
> -> webservice) that imply the creation of Strings. :(
> 
> any solution?

Use a JVM-implementation that stores the Strings encrypted in
the memory ;-)


Best regards, Lothar
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