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Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks."

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  Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks." Capa Espírito <_@.example> - 2012-08-02 04:22 -0600
    Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks." Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid> - 2012-08-02 09:54 +0000

#16958 — Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks."

From	Capa Espírito <_@.example>
Date	2012-08-02 04:22 -0600
Subject	Re: "Then it's a simple matter of following your socks."
Message-ID	<jvdgt3$fu6$1@news.albasani.net>

one busted puppet wrote: 

>On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:04:36 GMT, This account has been banned because it
>violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use wrote:
>
>> (http://www.aioe.org/statistics/news-notice.2012.03.01-03.01.22.html)
>
>So you're relying, once again, on a timing coincidence.
>
I am reading all of the post.
Time is Time.
You can say it is coincidence, however you or I saying so does 
not make it so.

[...]
>
>You can keep posting more of this so-called "evidence". I can keep poking 
>holes in it. So when do you give up, kooky?
>
"kooky?"
Your post was halfway believable up to this point where it became a hate poast.

When Arne made the post to c.l.j.p (detailed below) did you respond at that time 
with the same "coincidence" argument for the shared IP addresses?
When you have bragged about instigating cancels of NSP accounts for your
various nemesis did you consider the help desk you wrote to would one day
read your "coincidence" as not being a coincidence in the full light of history as 
the truth comes to pass?
Convince me you are not indeed the lying conniving SOB many have pointed to
in all your slightly differing modes, Seamus.

Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:52:33 -0500
From: Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
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Jerry Gerrone wrote:
> On Nov 17, 2:54 am, Paul Derbyshire <pgd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snip]
> So, he really DOES exist.
> 
>> I've known about this nonsense for a while but I ignored it until now.
>> Now I've decided it's gotten out of hand.
> 
> No, that actually happened at least a year ago.
> 
>> Someone evidently mistook "Twisted" (though he seems to call himself
>> everything *but* Twisted) for me
> 
> That "someone" calls himself Hunter Gratzner, and his erroneous
> speculations have since spread far further than ever was merited. (The
> speculator in question does not even seem to use this newsgroup.) So

Credibility: zero

Internet usage skills: zero

From: hzergel901@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
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From: Paul Derbyshire <pgderb@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:54:27 -0800 (PST)
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From: Jerry Gerrone <scuzwalla@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: Possible bug in Calendar
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:10:17 -0800 (PST)
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IP 	:	74.14.135.55 	     Neighborhood
Host 	:	bas1-ottawa10-1242466103.dsl.bell.ca    OK
Country 	:	Canada

Arne


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From	Nadegda <nad318b404@gmail.invalid>
Date	2012-08-02 09:54 +0000
Message-ID	<jvdinp$b9n$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#16958

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 04:22:36 -0600, Capa Espírito wrote:

> one busted puppet wrote:
> 
>>On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:04:36 GMT, This account has been banned because
>>it violated the Google Groups Terms Of Use wrote:
>>
>>> (http://www.aioe.org/statistics/news-notice.2012.03.01-03.01.22.html)
>>
>>So you're relying, once again, on a timing coincidence.
>>
> I am reading all of the post.
> Time is Time.
> You can say it is coincidence, however you or I saying so does not make
> it so.

Hi, Morphy.

I see you snipped all of the numerous *other* holes I poked in Account 
Banned's latest heap of "evidence". I wonder why? Any *single one* of 
those holes leaves Account Banned's k'lame completely unsubstantiated, 
once again, so he, or you, would have to plug ALL of them.

And I could go on poking more and more holes just in what he's already 
posted. If he posts more, I'll poke more holes. How can I be so confident 
that I'll be able to poke more holes? Because I know, as a matter of 
fact, that he is *wrong*. And so are you.

You're like any paranoid conspiracy theorists: coincidence as evidence, 
spurious patterns as proof, and anyone disagreeing with you is instantly 
labeled as being certainly also one of the enemy. Andrew Wilson argues 
against you? Instantly you label him a "Derbyshire sock" too. Phoenix 
argues against you? You label him one. I argue against you? You label me 
one. Traffic-monitor votes you for some July kook awards and adds "This 
nym-shifting skidmark is a fucking kook. In fact he's a viable candidate 
for kook of the century." Danny Serlot labels *him* one.

Want to play another round? It will have the same results as the last two 
-- the only people you convince will be yourselves, while I tear the 
conspiracy theory to shreds, Account Banned gets another round of SPNAK!
s, you morph some more, you get killfiled some more, and still nobody 
takes you or your kooky theories seriously except a few of your fellow 
kooks.

This game of trying to "prove" that kensi is Derbyshire is clearly 
stalemated. And since the burden of proof is on the accusers, that means 
that you have lost. You can stave off the appearance of defeat by piling 
up a stack of coincidences miles high but you cannot actually win. Are 
you going to waste more of your time and more of your life on what is, 
for you, already a years-long futile quest? Or are you going to throw in 
the towel and admit that you might be wrong and find something more 
constructive to do with your life than trying to outerfilth kensi and 
other people for the high crime of rubbing you the wrong way and 
therefore being suspected Derbyshire socks?

Are you going to apologize to whoever actually lives in that trailer you 
posted a photo of?

Keep in mind, I've only spent a month at demolishing your garbage and 
kensi a year or so, while you've wasted the better part of a decade now 
tilting at various windmills you mistook for this Derbyshire. A month 
from now and someone else might be doign the demolishing. Nobody loses 
more than a few weeks of summer vacation time or other idle time 
debunking your demented delusions, while you lose year after year doing 
little else but spamming your screeds all over usenet.

It's time you quit, Morphy, before you look in the mirror one day, see an 
old man, and break down in tears upon realizing how much of your life you 
let slip by because of this "Derbyshire" obsession when you could have 
been out having fun or something instead.

Usenet isn't worth wasting years of your life chasing ghosts.

And I mean all of that sincerely. I guess some of kensi's attitude of 
trying to help kooks and not just mock them has rubbed off on me.

Now it's almost 3 AM. I've wasted enough time on kooks for one day so 
it's beddy-bye for me now.

Think the above over, carefully, before we meet again.

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