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  Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-s5i-this> - 2012-08-01 18:09 +0000
    Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-s5i-this> - 2012-08-01 18:09 +0000

#16909 — Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML??

  To: kensi
From: "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-x1c-this>

  To: kensi
From: "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-dpk-this>

  To: kensi
From: "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-rf4-this>

  To: kensi
From: "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-pvc-this>

  To: kensi
From: "Lars Enderin" <lars.enderin@1:261/38.remove-5bm-this>

  To: kensi
From: Lars Enderin <lars.enderin@telia.com>

2012-07-28 21:51, kensi skrev:
> On 27/07/2012 3:42 PM, Arne Vajhoj wrote:
> [snip]
>
> Why are half the people in this group suddenly switching to this
> news.tds.net NNTP provider?
>
> I ask because that NNTP provider is b0rken:
>
> 1. Every post has the same NNTP-Posting-Host header, even from people I
>    know are not sockpuppets of one another, e.g. you, Robert Klemmke,
>    David Lamb, and Jim Janney all have recent posts with
>    NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65.
>
> 2. Posts through that server have the References: header stripped. As
>    a result, every time any of you posts through that server it breaks
>    a piece off the thread you're replying to, causing clutter and making
>    discussions more difficult to follow.
>
> 3. It seems to fuck up character encodings, most noticeably when Vajhoj
>    posts or is replied to via TDS as he has a non-ASCII character in his
>    name.
>
> Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for some
> reason, such as because they closed, please find something better than
> TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does not
> break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the o character. It
> does not require signup. Eternal-September is something I often see
> recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of those is
> probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS, from all
> indications.

I, for one, did not switch to that provider, yet my last post, addressing the 
same point as yours, got copied through it. I don't think anybody else chose it 
either. The posts are copied with different headers but the same contents. That 
server should be closed down.

--
Lars Enderin

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#16911

  To: Lars Enderin
From: "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-x1c-this>

  To: Lars Enderin
From: "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-dpk-this>

  To: Lars Enderin
From: "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-rf4-this>

  To: Lars Enderin
From: "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-pvc-this>

  To: Lars Enderin
From: "Patricia Shanahan" <patricia.shanahan@1:261/38.remove-5bm-this>

  To: Lars Enderin
From: Patricia Shanahan <pats@acm.org>

On 7/28/2012 1:03 PM, Lars Enderin wrote:
> 2012-07-28 21:51, kensi skrev:
...
>> Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for some
>> reason, such as because they closed, please find something better than
>> TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does not
>> break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the o character. It
>> does not require signup. Eternal-September is something I often see
>> recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of those is
>> probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS, from all
>> indications.
>
> I, for one, did not switch to that provider, yet my last post,
> addressing the same point as yours, got copied through it. I don't think
> anybody else chose it either. The posts are copied with different
> headers but the same contents. That server should be closed down.
>

Same here. I've used west.news.earthlink.net at my NNTP server for many years. 
I've just checked some messages, and recent ones have corrupted headers.

Patricia

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-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
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-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

-+- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 + Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
-+- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

--- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Dada-1
 * Origin: Prism bbs (1:261/38)
--- Synchronet 3.16a-Win32 NewsLink 1.98
Time Warp of the Future BBS - telnet://time.synchro.net:24

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