Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jim Janney Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Do C++ and Java professionals use UML?? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 18:20:31 -0600 Organization: Trip away; make no stay. Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <5012E6BE.55400.calajapr@time.synchro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="3e796541df3cd2e39d75fcba86cc47b9"; logging-data="15723"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+BBIHYendOBGnhk6qyxkOH" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jZ+ankMcYxdoEE5XmSrfZ+br/gM= sha1:IgmeZnhnm628cDefb8ia1ZaMsLM= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16499 kensi writes: > On 27/07/2012 3:42 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote: > [snip] > > Why are half the people in this group suddenly switching to this > news.tds.net NNTP provider? > > I ask because that NNTP provider is b0rken: > > 1. Every post has the same NNTP-Posting-Host header, even from people I > know are not sockpuppets of one another, e.g. you, Robert Klemmke, > David Lamb, and Jim Janney all have recent posts with > NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.21.70.65. > > 2. Posts through that server have the References: header stripped. As > a result, every time any of you posts through that server it breaks > a piece off the thread you're replying to, causing clutter and making > discussions more difficult to follow. > > 3. It seems to fuck up character encodings, most noticeably when Vajhøj > posts or is replied to via TDS as he has a non-ASCII character in his > name. > > Please switch back to your original providers, or if you can't for > some reason, such as because they closed, please find something better > than TDS to replace them with. AIOE works well enough for me and does > not break References: when I reply or screw up encoding the ø > character. It does not require signup. Eternal-September is something > I often see recommended, does require signup, but is free. Either of > those is probably better than (and maybe even cheaper than) this TDS, > from all indications. For the last several years all my posts, including this one, have been through news.eternal-september.org. -- Jim Janney