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From: Bent C Dalager <bcd@pvv.ntnu.no>
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Subject: Re: Article: Why you can't dump Java (even though you want to)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:26:59 +0000 (UTC)
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On 2012-05-21, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 5:09 AM, Bent C Dalager wrote:
>> Personally, if someone expects me to spend my time on their website
>> they better provide a compelling reason for me to want to do so, and
>> gratuitous dependence on JS just puts me off. In general I consider it
>> a good early indicator of a terrible web designer: "You need JS to
>> click this link", right so this guy taught himself web design in his
>> own dreams.
>
> ????
>
> Considering AJAX heavy web sites to be terrible designed
> it not exactly the trend seen on the web.

That's ok; I often find myself at odds with the general perception. :D

What I do find striking is that this is 2012, more than 15 years after
HTML had standardised forms (<input>, HTML 2.0 I believe) and they are
/still/ playing catch-up to the established GUI frameworks such as
Motif, Windows, etc. Tab order, menu and tool bars, hotkeys/shortcuts,
i18n, layout, drag and drop, list selection: mostly a hodge podge of
what the developer chanced upon in some library somewhere and what he
could be bothered to hack together himself. Just such a simple matter
as standardising how to handle the browser's "Back" button in a web
app – cutting edge rocket science, it would seem.

Usually a new technology is reasonably mature after ten years, but
getting a proper GUI on web pages is taking forever.

(Yes, I sometimes do turn on JavaScript. :D)

Cheers,

Bent D.
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