Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Sosman Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.help Subject: Re: basic learning path Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 16:21:30 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2019 20:21:31 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="bc5723f6c1178ae4befc34e41c21698f"; logging-data="2618"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18uD0MUmmb8tzFG/A1Ti1jV" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+sLWrZnBG/d7A2PL1w8QNbSkjP0= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:38817 comp.lang.java.help:4253 On 3/14/2019 3:46 PM, dale wrote: > Hi, > > A little while ago I asked some questions about java. > > It was said that I should learn an IDE. IIRC the gist was that if you are a professional programmer in an organization that uses Java, it follows that you *will* use an IDE -- specifically, whatever IDE the organization has adopted. You will also use idiosyncratic tweaks (perhaps) and conventions (for sure) specific to that organization. If you're just beginning to learn Java itself, I suggest that you avoid IDE's and concentrate entirely on Java. IDE's are big, intricate, powerful tools that come with their own non-negligible learning curves, and someone new to both the IDE and to Java is likely to encounter a good deal of confusion. (A thread ongoing at this moment deals with strategies for adjusting one's Java code to silence an IDE's spurious complaints -- a beginner encountering such a situation may well have a hard time distinguishing between what Java requires and what some IDE wants.) Once your grasp of Java is fairly secure you should start acquainting yourself with an IDE. But I'd recommend avoiding the IDE while your grasp is still shaky. > I would like to learn all the ingredients that go into an IDE first. > Enough to code a robust program. Sorry; I'm not sure what you mean by "the ingredients." > As I said before I know the basics of object oriented architecture, > design, and programming. > > Are there some web tutorials that will walk me through the > ingredients? There are certainly tutorials on the Java language, and there are tutorials on how to use the popular IDE's, if that's what you mean by "the ingredients." GIYF on both accounts. -- esosman@comcast-dot-net.invalid Six hundred seventy-eight days to go.