Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!border3.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.16.MISMATCH!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post01.iad.highwinds-media.com!newsfe17.iad.POSTED!8ad76e89!not-for-mail From: Arved Sandstrom User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110424 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: tools for programming applets References: <028d2009-98b7-43a3-b02d-83eaa89db79e@glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 27 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsgroups-download.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 10:04:01 UTC Organization: Public Usenet Newsgroup Access Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 07:04:00 -0300 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4520 On 11-05-24 05:15 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message , Joshua Cranmer wrote: > >> That you completely cut off all context of where I explained this. > > *Sigh* I get this crap all the time from the clueless newbies. Let me > explain to you something about USENET: my postings are to record what I > said, not what you said. If I quote any part of you said, it is to give some > context for what I said, nothing more. [ SNIP ] That's the point of quoting, yes, to provide context for what you're saying. Joshua is saying that you didn't quote enough to provide context. You surely did not. In case you didn't know this about English (this is not a Usenet thing), the point of quoting as we use it here is typically to call attention to another person's position so you can agree or disagree with it, and follow up on what they said. Brevity is good, but you're supposed to keep enough quoted material to actually express the intent. Here's another way of looking at it: assume that readers only have the one post to examine. The sense of what you quote should independently accurately reflect what the original author is saying. "How about Swing?" fails miserably on that count. AHS