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From: Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.javascript,comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject: Re: FireFox Bug 856969 -Too much recursion error with Java LiveConnect Applet
Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 17:47:23 +0800
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On 4/2/2013 8:44 PM, Richard Maher wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have worked out what I was doing wrong with the previous Chrome error: -
> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=129528
>
> So now Chrome is good to go but FF and IE are still causing/exhibiting
> problems under certain circumstances. I have really, really narrowed
> down the SSCCE and causes/effects for what I feel is demonstrably a bug
> with these browsers.
>
> See the following for complete FireFox details: -
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856969
>
> I don't think there's much on the Java or Javascript side that I can do
> to mitigate the failure more than I have but I'm open to suggestions
> from those of you with experience of LiveConnect.
>
> If you can help solve the problem please do. (If you just respond to
> hear your own voice then please piss off)
>
> Cheers Richard Maher

  This from  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=856969 :-

(In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #24)
 > At this point, this issue is not a priority for the project. The java 
plugin
 > is a closed-source blob that has a very poor track record of spinning 
nested
 > event loops when it is not correct or safe to do so, and so we have been
 > more and more aggressively preventing it from doing so. The correct 
solution
 > to this bug is to stop using Java.
 >
 > If somebody wants to provide a backtrace which identifies exactly how the
 > recursion happens, I can provide details about how you might be able 
to fix
 > the problem. Until then, this issue is not going to be tracked.

  and . . .

(In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #26)
 > The Mozilla project definitely has hostility toward Java, but it's not
 > prejudicial. It is clear that the design of the Java plugin and code is
 > fundamentally insecure, and the repeated exploits against it and slow
 > response times make it clear that the Java plugin is not something that
 > should be part of the web. We have to continue supporting it for legacy
 > sites, but Java will be blocked by default and users will have to 
agree to
 > override the security warning in order to enable Java in the near future.

and . . .

(In reply to Richard Maher from comment #33)
 > (In reply to Benjamin Smedberg  [:bsmedberg] from comment #26)
 > > . . .but Java will be blocked by default and users will have to 
agree to
 > > override the security warning in order to enable Java in the near 
future.
 >
 > Churlish, unworthy, and quite frankly proprietary :-(


Is everyone at Java engineering just used to being bitch-slapped in 
public these days or does Larry look after his assets?

Cheers Richard Maher