Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!mx04.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joshua Cranmer Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Java Programming Best Practices Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 21:11:15 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <8ceb5a54-8510-4864-98cd-38bc96e49866@googlegroups.com> <3c27c604-acc6-4481-a24e-0ff70caa3101@googlegroups.com> <6b0c5a0c-8848-4137-aadb-550b06fc25e4@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 01:11:21 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5f536c15fdfd3b7c57128c819c23bc89"; logging-data="13327"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Gf3VZUufPTNT1gVkIVBvPGOtMx9dL6Xk=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:eP2maP1iWLr30ykZYmiW05qI5js= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:16241 On 7/22/2012 8:18 PM, markspace wrote: > On 7/22/2012 3:43 PM, Robert Klemme wrote: > >> I don't think Roedy's statements qualify as hate speech (and I come from >> Germany which has a more restrictive approach to freedom of speech). > > > Furthermore I recall that Roedy lives in Canada, and maintains his web > presence there, complicating the whole "US law" thing even more. (What > treaties exist to cover speech? I don't know.) There's some blathering about freedom of speech in the UN Declaration of Human Rights, but it's vague on where freedom of speech stops. The Durham Conference produced a toothless document a few years ago, but considering that several notable countries boycotted, it's not really worth talking about. The US has extremely liberal free speech laws--hate speech is actually protected free speech here; considering that, e.g., Arab countries have attempted to push for making defamation against (read: criticism of) religion not-free speech, it's very doubtful that any treaty the US would agree to would be tenable to the rest of the world. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth