Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: no more primitive data types in Java (JDK 10+). What do you think? Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:48:14 -0700 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <13i3p7dn5bqlmu9t1l83faour5sq016pu0@4ax.com> <30298985.914.1335305162450.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbqv7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net BV97JCUrBRCxwjLq3yhBv8VLN0Qok0IVOJvGd+aHS6MVe85Qhli5PyBC4aeug1okUVW2BwxDjsvX6F1JgbM6BqoN+QONeMO7fbGFrC2wHRjD1aIQgNQZ/Z6oX1gOJOTm NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="hEu9V5rnx57UkrKBrQwvHKB1244XD91t7xWXkDXEh2v/qrF8fkklnRuu1KHi7ym9F+WobrMQp9U4yJv+mhS6tgx4a2+q8VL+sJKToqP8LUYDX9+7mTasi07Kxc8S0ouu"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/11.0.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:k+2v+Eu1o9cAMmdcnqZ5rNUS7Oc= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:13892 BGB wrote: > Lew wrote: >> The notion of 'what the value "should" be' is not mentioned because, >> naturally enough, it's not a valid construct. If it were to work, it >> wouldn't be Java any more. It's such a fundamentally opposed construct to >> the Java ethos that such a thing cannot happen in Java, ever. It's part of >> the foundational type-safe approach that is the heart of Java. So put aside >> such self-contradictory absurdities as, "what that which is utterly >> forbidden and anathema to the language philosophy would look like if it were >> allowed." >> > > doesn't seem like a relevant argument, because such things *are* defined in > various ways in other languages, and a language is more about specific syntax, > behaviors, and semantics than it is about constructs being "anathema" or > having a "philosophy" (unless of course the spec were to define this as well). What do other languages have to do with it? This is Java. -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg