Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BGB Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: no more primitive data types in Java (JDK 10+). What do you think? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:27:33 -0700 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <31946709.2630.1334888553396.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcsy1> <1kjq7upn72ead.dnfbqpmw22at$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net hfXquscQBS8Q5xxDsHs26JBfir03cRK5je/O1+eONiKvX+P3aJ8e9QDQonVNoVmvdfJ40l8z7d8pV7RE4NwqsA== NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="9hxijRs5lx4a9oZwFxhLymmPvQlsEjbk53HZIbX2MHyPq+mDuui93AXKYH0r716UwJKWOdybdedc47gDwc5OUb16dNqhsVSljDha4ucGyiRuW0h0ys8VJElmKUQJ0v66"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:hZcCNLE1g/gxdmnykBXUJh5ghbI= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:13755 On 4/21/2012 12:55 PM, Lew wrote: > BGB wrote: >> Leif Roar Moldskred wrote: >>> Lew>>> >>>> How sizeable is this sadly mistaken minority? >>>> >>>> If they all thought the world were flat, would that make them correct? >>> >>> Language isn't defined by an objective physical reality, though, but >>> by usage -- which is why "awful" and "awesome" today have opposite >>> meanings. >>> >> >> yes, and why people might actually disagree regarding the usage of >> various terms. >> >> for objective reality, people can go and measure and test stuff. >> for language use, it more amounts to consensus, and languages change >> over time: >> this can be drastic, as in the differences between English and German; >> this can be more subtle, as in the differences between the US California >> dialect and Londoner dialects of English; >> or it can be things like the specific uses of certain terms. >> >> so, it is all a bit more informal and fluid, and not nearly so much about >> people being somehow chained to a dictionary or similar. >> >> >> even regarding objective reality, there is still some room for >> disagreement: >> competition between conventions and theories; >> various ways of interpreting the results of various measurements or >> experiments; >> ... >> >> rarely are things so simply black and white. > > Fortunately, in today's world, the meanings of "dozen" and "teens" are > so simply black and white. While your statement as a poster-saying > superficial generality is correct, in the particulars of these terms > it's sadly mistaken. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dozen as noted, 13, 14, and 10 notions of "dozen" are listed, in addition to the usual 12.