Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lew Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: no more primitive data types in Java (JDK 10+). What do you think? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 04:25:32 -0700 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 69 Message-ID: References: <31946709.2630.1334888553396.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcsy1> <1kjq7upn72ead.dnfbqpmw22at$.dlg@40tude.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net 3iWRPEirwsiJr+VN+qsfzZ28ppz+nyDi6XC3EUF6VcAH9LT+aP1HTNNaiyoYgHlfj24sM0/m+eaFwDt3WBWu5M7eefdUX2RkRxdcgWlYLOFO7hXtSrRQbzJrgk9kNuca NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 11:25:31 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="KgB+6EotNLTCmYSlB6by55OIpGgxEtnAUYE+13gluwtxjA4uSeRzEJer8NOyRER5Vd1NihPioup+uLRNjWRQrlfKxQIlkIyACqQxngUHVujl4UFO3SuGG2A1WmX4mIDA"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120329 Thunderbird/11.0.1 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:oTSv7d62YjCYdQ+T7xLQdnhbhdA= Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:13739 n 04/20/2012 07:57 PM, BGB wrote: > On 4/20/2012 8:20 AM, Lew wrote: >> BGB wrote: >>> I think for many, "teens" starts at 10 (rather than 13), so 2010-2019 >>> would be >>> the "teens" of the new millennium. >> >> If many thought the world were flat, would that make them right? >> >> No. >> >> "Ten". "Eleven". "Twelve". "Thir_*teen*_". "Four_*teen*_". >> "Fif_*teen*_". ... >> > > I was aware of this, hence why 13 was mentioned in contrast. > "many" need not be the majority though, nor necessarily correct, only "a > sizeable minority". How sizeable is this sadly mistaken minority? If they all thought the world were flat, would that make them correct? > much like saying "many people use Linux", despite most people using Windows... Nothing like that at all. We're talking about what "teens" actually means, not how many people use it wrongly. This is not a subjective matter. > there are similar things prone to vary, such as: > how many is "a couple"? "a few"? or "a handful"? (*1) > is "a dozen" necessarily 12? (rather then 10, 13, or 14) Nothing remotely similar. The "teens" definition is precise, the "few" definition is not. A dozen is necessarily 12. Duh. You're all over the map on this one. > ... > > > *1: yes, there are people who use these terms and expect a certain number. it > leads to frustration, personally, as I think of most of these as "something > greater than 1", whereas I know of someone who thinks: "couple"=3, "few"=4, > and "handful"=5. > Imprecise words like "few" or "couple" in that sense (most senses of "couple" are "two", but there is one sense of "near two") are deliberately vague and subject to interpretation. Precise words, like "teens" "teens   [teenz] Show IPA plural noun the numbers 13 through 19, especially in a progression, as the 13th through the 19th years of a lifetime or of a given or implied century." or "dozen" are not so subject to interpretation. -- Lew Honi soit qui mal y pense. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cf/Friz.jpg