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From: David Lamb <dalamb@cs.queensu.ca>
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Subject: Re: Teaching kids to program (in Java)
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 20:36:12 -0400
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On 12/04/2012 7:16 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/12/2012 1:09 PM, David Lamb wrote:
>> On 12/04/2012 4:12 AM, Mark wrote:
>>> Does anyone know any good resources to teach Java programming to kids.
>>
>> I passed this question along to our intro programming profs and they
>> uniformly said don't use Java. Recommendations included
>>
>> (a) Logo (presumably with turtle graphics)
>> (b) Python. One example: http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/mediaComp-plan/27
>> (c) The Alice environment (Alice.org)
>
> I would say that it depends a bit on the age of the kids.
>
> If they are old enough to learn serious math in school, then
> they are old enough to learn Java.
>

Hmm.  I suspect "old enough for serious math" might be a tad older in 
North America than in Dennmark.