Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!usenet.ukfsn.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Logging problem Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Organization: UK Free Software Network Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: <11598111.961.1331330200504.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@pbcr5> NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.45.235.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: localhost.localdomain 1331391112 18275 84.45.235.129 (10 Mar 2012 14:51:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@localhost.localdomain NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:51:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:12837 On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:57:16 +0000, Novice wrote: > Lew wrote in >> Have you looked at any real system's logs? >> > No. >> You should. >> > I agree. Can you point me to any? I don't have any. > That is a disadvantage of using desktop Windows, which doesn't believe in logs. I don't know whether Windows Server uses them, so the best I can do is suggest that, if you have a suitable box [1], you put one of the Linux flavours[2] on it, have a play with it and then take a look at the files in /var/log/ with "less". [1] since Linux will run well on less hardware than Windows needs, in general this means anything you have lying around that's now too small and/or slow to run current Windows releases. If you can leave it running and networked with your other computers you may well find it generally useful: a slow Linux box with big disk(s) that is running Samba makes a good networked print and filing system for Windows boxes and can be managed OK without needing an attached screen or keyboard. [2] try Ubuntu or Fedora 14 as general purpose distributions or consider PuppyLinux if the box is very small and slow, e.g. a 386/486 with under 400 MB RAM. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |