Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!usenet.ukfsn.org!not-for-mail From: Martin Gregorie Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Ubunto Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Organization: UK Free Software Network Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <9fovtmF8gaU1@mid.individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.45.235.129 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: localhost.localdomain 1318681287 32277 84.45.235.129 (15 Oct 2011 12:21:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@localhost.localdomain NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:21:27 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Pan/0.135 (Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Scald Myself with Tea; GIT 30dc37b master) Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:8815 On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:16:47 -0400, B1ll Gat3s wrote: > Just because it's no longer available at the same time as the OS with a > one-stop shop doesn't mean it's impossible to get and install it, > period, you know. > Maybe, maybe not. I've read, from more than one source, that G2 will no longer work on Ubuntu, hence its removal though admittedly this also has a lot to do with the Ubuntu folks deciding they hated G3 and going off down the Unify track: maybe they've decided that Unify is now stable enough that alternatives aren't needed. With F16 Fedora moves to Kernel 3.x and completes its transition from using System V init to control boot-up and services to using systemd. As a result systemctl replaces 'service'. This in turn means that the daemon scripts in /etc/init.d become toast and are replaced by systemd service unit definitions. With G2 no longer being maintained (not that gnome.org was doing much to support it for the last year or two) and the relatively large number of fundamental changes going into F16 I wouldn't be surprised if it stops working under F16 too. At a minimum, a lot of stuff in the 'System' menu won't work any more. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org |