Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: markspace <-@.> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: StringBuilder Difficulties Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2011 15:08:05 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: <9744m8FpnhU3@mid.individual.net> <6cqp07tiug2nu8u6ififvvek1694fkpfi1@4ax.com> <976q3jF3etU2@mid.individual.net> <978bv1FnqaU1@mid.individual.net> <97ejjfFrh1U1@mid.individual.net> <4e137f35$0$21745$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 22:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="5HSAJfqnDjjLFxXZ6WBWEw"; logging-data="6624"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+zahs6+ArWCgLzhSecPYXEWJqUnIeDrtQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: <4e137f35$0$21745$e4fe514c@news2.news.xs4all.nl> Cancel-Lock: sha1:YjrFVbPuR/4ZhmGhw2eapgN7oiI= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:5876 On 7/5/2011 2:16 PM, Silvio wrote: > Drop it. No. Your buddy there is making ridiculous claims and he's got nothing to back them up. > I spent 10 years programming Java (pre- and post-generics) and > moved to Scala three years ago. It's no contest, believe me. I don't care. I've got 20 years experience in this industry with nearly every type of programming language you can imagine and my fingers haven't fallen off yet. Look, if you like Scala better, bully for you. But I haven't seen anything yet to convince me to change, and this thread on that subject has been nothing but hyperbole and FUD. I have no reason to change, and "drop it" surely is not a logical argument that's going to cause me to change languages, or even consider it. > But as always, comparison of individual language features is pointless This much I will agree on. I was hoping to find some actual information. So far that is 100% lacking. > In my experience Scala rewrites of Java code shrink to 25%-50% of the > original size. Just curious: binary or source? I'm unclear which you mean. > To each his own. There is no point in starting another language war, and > I do not think super* was trying to do that. All he has to do is supply some logical Java examples. In a Java newsgroup, I think that's on topic.