Re: The greeting code in Java

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On 06/19/2011 04:53 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>    The new C++ standard has more than 1300 pages, but this is
>    base on the C standard with more than 500 pages. These are
>    nearly 1900 pages of a text in a condensed technical
>    language, yet the language does not allow to access a
>    directory of the filesystem or a socket of the network.

In all fairness, the first 200 pages or so of the C standard are 
language semantics, which C++ redefines for itself anyways. It's the 
library and a few of the annexes that are important for C++ (so about 
300 pages, give or take). Of course, you might want to add for some more 
information specs like IEEE 754 (~70 pages) if you want to know more 
information about floating points.

The JLS itself is 684 pages, compared to the ~450 pages that C++ takes 
to explain its language. The C++0x library takes around 800 pages to 
explain the rough equivalent to large hunks of java.lang and java.util.

On the other hand, the JLS is a lot more explicit and burns through 
space with examples, so it is relatively low in information density for 
a specification. The standard Java API is also probably the best example 
of API documentation in widespread usage.

-- 
Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not 
tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth

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