Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!news.unit0.net!news.netcologne.de!ramfeed1.netcologne.de!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!69.16.185.16.MISMATCH!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 From: Michael Wojcik Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcm9pZOKAlFdoeSBEYWx2aWs/?= Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 10:37:28 -0400 Organization: Micro Focus Lines: 36 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p437e35de651994d7ec2b9b0f2385dff22e48d880dc623bce.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) Gecko/20090812 Thunderbird/2.0.0.23 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 In-Reply-To: Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:5103 Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > > No, what you mention are themselves just technologies, not domains. This is a painfully foolish line of argument. (I am saddened that you appear to have convinced even one person with it. What are they teaching in school these days?) > Engineering is just a collection of technologies; Humans are a collection of molecules; that does not make them molecules. > finance is technology > (insofar as it is mathematically-based); Humans are carbon-based; that does not make them carbon. > health is nothing without > technology these days; Humans are nothing without oxygen; that does not make them oxygen. > same with education, aeronautics, etc, etc. Cetera indeed. Even a less-foolish formulation of this line of thought - a pure instrumentalist world view - has been thoroughly critiqued by any number of sophisticated thinkers, from Jurgen Habermas (not one of my favorites, but not stupid either) to Andrew Feenberg to Donna Haraway and so on. -- Michael Wojcik Micro Focus Rhetoric & Writing, Michigan State University