Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BGB Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Managed-Code Bloat Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:54:05 -0700 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net MlorL8uMj31ojsVOicizd4Lmdqvv7gZnMKcj1rkXnRs9KhYA+tqCR1OLQG26VoOS7lOJWfqBLZBTY8FSwPcWlw== NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:57:19 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="iuOLapSY8NwtcgfFETrekAZMpjJEWNPTmuNBurnTx6kUd2yUP0rlqNo8ysdECCztS1KGimc/BSCUdHgiPHERlrYWWqA6AVqd97MLGrLoJ9UK6rV4rZRKVNmF/guDAPH6"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:WPoUf0QrprUdr5YT7/5FfVsVLGI= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:5043 On 6/6/2011 8:35 AM, Joshua Cranmer wrote: > On 06/06/2011 02:47 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> The whole managed-code/auto-garbage-collected concept may really >> appeal to >> corporate code-cutter types, but I think it has real trouble in the mass >> market. > > From a programming language design concept, one thing is abundantly > clear: manually-managed memory is a failure. Most programmers--even the > very best--have very little ability to prevent memory from being leaked. > That's why pretty much everyone accuses every very large application > written in native languages as acting like a leaky bucket: Windows, > Firefox, etc. > you know... some of us use garbage collectors in C...