Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Joshua Cranmer Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: Managed-Code Bloat Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:37:23 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 23:37:24 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: mx04.eternal-september.org; posting-host="Q8HyEFb0j2lB0WC1MU3ArQ"; logging-data="14460"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Vbf8CWwQNUlgAm2P5dHNJCzur8v+bGOc=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:YYHHCWyuV8Y0gps70e/InY058rA= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:5042 On 6/6/2011 3:17 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message, Joshua Cranmer wrote: > >> From a programming language design concept, one thing is abundantly >> clear: manually-managed memory is a failure. > > And yet managed code has failed to take off in the mass market. Why is that? Because you can't see the mass market. The use of HTML 5 and JavaScript-based applications is taking off. And what is JavaScript? Why managed code. To deny that this is the case is to deny the success of the iPhone, Android, et al: hell, even Microsoft is pushing for HTML 5-y things in Windows 8. -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Donald E. Knuth