Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BGB Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcm9pZOKAlFdoeSBEYWx2aWs/?= Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:26:30 -0700 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.albasani.net ze/YXqblrY3k1noxeHvx6SNqhHOVdBUMRBNgA9XfPUeWUWPzvi99FjEFkVAvzSjONlZeL+NmqOTUTxamkSYIOmC/nuS2aokVtsgyuoXzjJBYSlb+Gco5jUuYhDcdCEYZ NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:29:32 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="Dc0iSPZQrjopg5znA6d8hOiLmia6eJqbWGtkPDUWbklhts904zcadTOT4ZzgGVhpspBRQdxvZgRrCk56kSx0hmsz38Fz3QpK+1xHcc6NW4RKLsBbgV2IbsKFopZZv1b0"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@albasani.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: Cancel-Lock: sha1:aMxT8EjYtXFX8/qxFAOPrLmDK9M= Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4823 On 5/31/2011 1:02 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > In message, Andreas Leitgeb > wrote: > >> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> In message, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >>>> The funny thing, is that Java when it came out, was supposed to >>>> solve all these differences by putting a virtual OS between the >>>> application and the OS, this way one writes to this one common >>>> virtual OS (the VM) and not have to worry about the different >>>> OS's below it. >>> >>> Those who knew the history of previous attempts to do this sort of thing >>> could already predict why it wasn’t going to succeed. >> >> I wouldn't exactly call "one size fits *almost* all" a failure. > > It was never able to spread as widely as Sun originally hoped. And now we > see attempts to fix up its flaws (like the substitution of Dalvik for the > JVM in Android) raising the ire of Oracle, to the point where it wants to > sabotage them. yeah... Sun wanted world domination... they didn't get this, but they still managed to do pretty good (putting Java on par with C and C++ in terms of popularity). of course, C# is currently up there as well, so it is mostly a battle between C, C++, Java, and C# for the title of "most widely used language...".