Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!news.linkpendium.com!news.linkpendium.com!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcm9pZOKAlFdoeQ==?= Dalvik? Followup-To: comp.lang.java.programmer Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2011 07:13:58 +1200 Organization: Geek Central Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 118-92-86-36.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1306869238 18193 118.92.86.36 (31 May 2011 19:13:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 19:13:58 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: KNode/4.4.11 Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.java.programmer:4808 In message , Joshua Cranmer wrote: > On 05/30/2011 09:56 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> In message, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: >> >>> Just understanding the makefiles, never mind the 2 million >>> lines or so source code with the #ifdefs in them, was a >>> nightmare :) >> >> Didn’t you have GNU autoconf to deal with all of that for you? > > Understanding GNU autoconf is half the battle. It's written in a macro > language no one really understands, so half the code is copy-pasted. I wouldn’t say that. I maintain one modest project that uses it , and I’ve been able to make a bunch of changes and improvements to its use of autoconf just from reading the documentation. And yes, I have made direct use of m4 in other projects. > Besides, all autoconf gets you is setting up the hundreds of #defines. > It does nothing else with respect to the #ifdef mess. Still better than anything Java can offer.